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石來民 Lutheran. Husband. Dad. Kentuckian. Demographer. @DemographicNTEL @FamStudies @AEI @NovakFellows . lymanrstone at gmail dot com

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    1. Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬‏ @lymanstoneky 14 May 2020

      Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬 Retweeted David French

      Given that the first centralized quarantine stations were set up in 1799, @DavidAFrench is on pretty solid historical footing here.https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1260817466290298882 …

      Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬 added,

      David FrenchVerified account @DavidAFrench
      I'm struck by the extent to which various right-wing "patriots" both reject shelter-in-place and reject masks. So, what are they doing for the country they say they love? The Founders would be stunned at their callous disregard for a pandemic.
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      Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬‏ @lymanstoneky 14 May 2020

      TBH the 1793 Philadelphia Yellow Fever outbreak is pretty revealing. In response to an epidemic, the Founding Fathers imposed a cordon sanitaire around Philadelphia and established centralized quarantine at a designated fever hospital site.

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        2. Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬‏ @lymanstoneky 14 May 2020

          George Washington was personally present at the start of this, though he left the city early on. There's no record of him being at all opposed to these measures.

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        3. Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬‏ @lymanstoneky 14 May 2020

          Of course, these measures were misguided: Yellow Fever is spread by mosquitoes, not person-to-person, so none of these measures had any effect. The outbreak is so sad in part because it was so misunderstood. Also because 10% of the population of Philadelphia died in 7 weeks.

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        4. Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬‏ @lymanstoneky 14 May 2020

          At the time Philadelphia was America's largest city; there's an argument that the 1793 Yellow Fever outbreak is *the reason* New York surpassed Philadelphia so quickly, a fact which was not widely anticipated at the time.

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        5. Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬‏ @lymanstoneky 14 May 2020

          But regardless of all this, the simple fact remains that the government response to the 1793 Philadelphia outbreak included mobility restrictions and quarantine programs--- and there's no evidence the founders saw that as a threat to liberty.

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        6. Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬‏ @lymanstoneky 14 May 2020

          There were differences, of course. Churches were kept open.

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        7. Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬‏ @lymanstoneky 14 May 2020

          But like folks George Washington personally appointed the guy who organized the centralized quarantine program in Philadelphia. I'm not sure how you can argue CQ is un-American.

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        8. Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬‏ @lymanstoneky 14 May 2020

          Also, sidenote, the 1793 Yellow Fever outbreak was bad, but not the worst. 1853 in New Orleans killed 9,000. 1878 in Memphis killed 5,100, almost 10% of the city's population.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/027795369290255O …

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        9. Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬‏ @lymanstoneky 14 May 2020

          Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬 Retweeted m

          Oh man, I didn't know this one! Paul Revere was on MA's board of health, which was tasked with... organizing maritime quarantine procedures!https://twitter.com/MPoirier1976/status/1261118987783548928 …

          Lyman Stone 石來民  🦬 🦬 🦬 added,

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          And Paul Revere was the head of the first Public Health Board?
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        1. Bibendum - Live Free or Die‏ @GereJeff 14 May 2020
          Replying to @lymanstoneky

          Since 1793 we have learned a bit more about medicine and have advanced medical capabilities, so tell us more about how we should be stuck with the proposed solutions they attempted.

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        2. Paullby77‏ @MaskedPiroot 14 May 2020
          Replying to @lymanstoneky

          Or you could look at the yellow fever as an example of the government exacerbating a problem by guessing at the cause, issuing a restriction, then doing nothing as the city was abandoned because what they did had no effect.

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        3. Paullby77‏ @MaskedPiroot 14 May 2020
          Replying to @MaskedPiroot @lymanstoneky

          Even with that the quarantine was targeted, (not everyone) and only one city, not everywhere. In fact the original quarantine site got everyone infected. For seven years the government sent uninfected to isolation where they got infected and died.

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