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Tech lawyer, community enabler. Currently: co-founder @tidelift. Formerly: Wikimedia, Mozilla, GNOME. San Franciscan but Miamian at ❤️. http://my.pronoun.is/he 

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    1. Luis Villa‏ @luis_in_brief Sep 24
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      Luis Villa Retweeted Kat Marchán

      I've heard repeatedly that most of the complaints about the current state of OSS are coming from VCs looking to profit, or people somehow bought off by those VCs. While that's certainly the case with *some* of the complaints, I'd urge people repeating that to listen harder. 👇🏽https://twitter.com/maybekatz/status/1176343575916773378 …

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      Kat Marchán @maybekatz
      It's basically time for a third wave of openly-developed software. I might not thing Coraline's thing is the way to go but the goal is something we should be trying you achieve. The FSF and OSI are unlikely to update themselves towards this end. https://twitter.com/shanley/status/1176265024462974976 …
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    2. Shauna‏ @shauna_gm Sep 24
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      Replying to @luis_in_brief @sarahmei

      *None* of the people I've seen raising this complaint are VCs. Most of us have been part of the FLOSS community for years. And we've been talking quietly about the inadequacy of FLOSS licenses for years.

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      Luis Villa‏ @luis_in_brief Sep 24
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      Replying to @shauna_gm @sarahmei

      The ethics complaint isn't raised by VCs, but the "commercial open source" "I can't get VC-level returns on FOSS because AWS" complaint does exist. The problem is people who somehow think that's the *only* complaint, or that anyone raising other complaints is just a front.

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        1. Luis Villa‏ @luis_in_brief Sep 24
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          Replying to @luis_in_brief @shauna_gm @sarahmei

          (I specifically have been trying to RT Kat and others lately because I think at least some well-intentioned people from the first wave of FOSS don't know/follow anyone from what Kat is calling a third wave, which contributes to the "but I haven't heard X" problem.)

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        2. Richard Fontana‏ @richardfontana Sep 25
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          Replying to @luis_in_brief @shauna_gm @sarahmei

          Thus far I believe it's only been the VC camp that has tried to appropriate "open source" label specifically (and maybe ultimately quite naively) thru OSI license approval, FWIW. I recognize the ethics camp may naturally feel open source label applies to what they want to see

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        3. Shauna‏ @shauna_gm Sep 25
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          Yeah, they're two pretty (entirely?) distinct camps, and you're right that the ethics camp has largely not tried to get OSI license approval. I know a number of folks in said camp who don't care at all about OSI license approval.

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