I would argue that the IRB, as a legal requirement, should be considered a minimum rather than a gold standard by the people in the broader research community who judge the work. By that I mean program committees, not colleagues.
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Replying to @PjdPeter @KenoFischer and
This is an important point. This has been the topic of intense discussion in the ACM SIGCHI community for a number of years. Should PCs 'override' standard ethical reviews? Under what circumstances? There are strong opinions on this!
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Replying to @lorenterveen @PjdPeter and
The key challenge for program committees is that standards for human subjects regulation vary by country. It's unreasonable to apply the US standard to everyone. 1/
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Replying to @asbruckman @lorenterveen and
There are some countries whose human subjects regulatory frameworks are inadequate/non-existent. Researchers from those countries won't have undergone IRB review because in many places are no IRBs or anything like it. 2/
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Replying to @asbruckman @lorenterveen and
So a question as simple as "did this undergo IRB review?" is fraught with western imperialism.... No, there's no IRB where that researcher is from. Now what? 3/
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Replying to @asbruckman @lorenterveen and
One possible solution is to create an *ACM standard* and say researchers hoping to publish in ACM venues must abide by the ACM standard (and all their local rules as well). The problem is, writing and maintaining such a standard is a huuuuge undertaking. 4/
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Replying to @asbruckman @lorenterveen and
I saw a proposal recently that suggested we say "abide by the ACM code of conduct and all local human subjects rules." But the ACM code of conduct isn't a human subjects policy and doesn't give clear guidance, and also is *aspirational*, setting a high bar. 5/
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Replying to @asbruckman @lorenterveen and
If you read http://ethics.acm.org carefully, a lot of ACM research is not allowed. I would argue for example that all computer vision research is unethical under the code because the technology has been so abused by repressive governments. 6/
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Replying to @asbruckman @PjdPeter and
Most discussions I've seen are on more mundane issues. My perspective is that everyone's reasoning is partial and resource-limited, so if work has undergone an ethics review, the strong default is to "presume innocence". Was the decision *reasonable*, not whether I agree with it.
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Replying to @lorenterveen @PjdPeter and
What is "reasonable" is not clear.
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Yeeeeess.... but....
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Replying to @lorenterveen @PjdPeter and
... and conversations about where to find the border of "reasonable" inevitably take place enmeshed in webs of differential power and privilege?
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