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Loren Terveen

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Prof at Minnesota, Human-Computer Interaction, Social Computing.

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www-users.cs.umn.edu/~terveen/
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    1. Michael Ekstrand‏ @mdekstrand 22 Apr 2020

      Michael Ekstrand Retweeted Ashley Feinberg

      This thing with evangelicals trying to explain Judaism to Jews? It’s easy for E’s to believe that their hermeneutic is the only one. When I was an evangelical, I didn’t understand Reform Judaism, because I assumed how we read religious texts is how anyone reads them. I was wrong.https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1252945569670221824 …

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    2. Michael Ekstrand‏ @mdekstrand 22 Apr 2020

      This shows up in fundiegelical-Muslim relations too, all the ‘Islam is really a religion of murder’ stuff. But knowledge is socially constructed, and that includes knowledge of what religious texts mean and how to understand them. They are interpreted in community.

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    3. Michael Ekstrand‏ @mdekstrand 22 Apr 2020

      This also shows up just within Christian hermaneutics. In the first half-millennia of Christianity, there was debate between the Alexandrian and Antiochan schools of interpretion. Fundamentalism & evangelicalism are thoroughly Antiochan and very suspicious of Alexandria.

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    4. Michael Ekstrand‏ @mdekstrand 22 Apr 2020

      But here’s the kicker. The Apostle Paul, guy who wrote half the New Testament, used an Alexandrian hermeneutic when he interpreted Jewish scriptures. So, the social process rejected a mode of interpretation used by the author of the text to be interpreted.

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    5. Michael Ekstrand‏ @mdekstrand 22 Apr 2020

      Antiochan hermaneutics as understod variously by Protestants, Evangelicals, and fundamentalists is not the only way to read Christian scriptures, let alone those of other faiths. So Christians shouldn’t pretend to understand Judaism better than Jews. We don’t.

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    6. Michael Ekstrand‏ @mdekstrand 22 Apr 2020

      me: so at the end, I feel like I have epistemological whiplash. therapist: what have you been doing to process this so far? me: writing weird twitter rants no one asked for.

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      Loren Terveen‏ @lorenterveen 22 Apr 2020
      Replying to @mdekstrand

      I didn't ask for it, but enjoyed it. References would be nice, too!

      8:13 AM - 22 Apr 2020
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        2. Michael Ekstrand‏ @mdekstrand 22 Apr 2020
          Replying to @lorenterveen

          A bunch is personal experience in evangelicalism. Maxie Burch’s lectures, esp. Early Christian History, were where I learned about Antioch and Alexandria and the evolution of Christian hermaneutics: http://maxieburch.net/history-theology-courses-info.php?cID=1 …

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        3. Michael Ekstrand‏ @mdekstrand 22 Apr 2020
          Replying to @mdekstrand @lorenterveen

          The reading I’ve been doing on STS (currently Sismondo’s Intro) is informing my understanding of social construction. And following @TheRaDR has opened my eyes to some of the breadth of interpretive traditions and the role of historical community in reading and applying texts.

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        2. Loren Terveen‏ @lorenterveen 22 Apr 2020
          Replying to @lorenterveen @mdekstrand

          Also, Google search "early christian history antioch vs. alexandria" brings up a lot of stuff. For example: https://ehyde.wordpress.com/2014/02/18/early-church-battle-royale-alexandria-vs-antioch/ … https://www.biblicaltraining.org/library/theological-traditions-alexandria-antioch/church-history-i/gerald-bray …

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        3. Loren Terveen‏ @lorenterveen 22 Apr 2020
          Replying to @lorenterveen @mdekstrand

          Skimming a few articles reminded me of the limits of my interest. I think intellectual debates about the relationship between Jesus' human and divine nature are vacuous. They devolve to arguing about abstract distinctions between abstract concepts with no possible real meaning.

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