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    1. the normie whisperer‏ @simplic10 14 Jan 2018
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      Ultimate Hanson tweetpic.twitter.com/6eRv6aeab9

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    2. Synthetic‏ @SR71999 14 Jan 2018
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      I'm also interested in how he came to the conclusion that most medical care is placebo. Perhaps he means most ailments are rather trivial and therapy for them doesn't do much (e.g. common cold). Even if that's true it's extremely misleading.

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    3. the normie whisperer‏ @simplic10 14 Jan 2018
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      I think he's being flip, his usual line is that *marginal* healthcare spending is useless or worse.

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    4. Synthetic‏ @SR71999 14 Jan 2018
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      I know so little economics. So he would not include, say, emergency treatment for Legionnaire's disease or organ transplant?

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    5. the normie whisperer‏ @simplic10 14 Jan 2018
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      Yeah, it's more like "after you cover the basics, more money doesn't give better outcomes". But I haven't read him much on this. No opinion

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    6. Synthetic‏ @SR71999 14 Jan 2018
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      How is "after you cover the basics" supposed to be interpreted? I mean, for any condition, the basics is what has more or less been proven to work.

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    7. Ordinary Banana‏ @literalbanana 15 Jan 2018
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      e.g. http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/07/the-oregon-health-insurance-experiment.html …

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    8. Synthetic‏ @SR71999 15 Jan 2018
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      So I take it this "But if medicine is good for the poor and *sick*, can’t we presume it is good for *everyone*?" (my emphasis) is key.

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    9. Synthetic‏ @SR71999 15 Jan 2018
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      This "...folks went wild getting stuff checked out that they’d been ignoring, and all that extra treatment of symptoms they could have ignored for longer led to lots of false positives on tests and over-treatment, making them worse on average." makes perfect sense.

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    10. Synthetic‏ @SR71999 15 Jan 2018
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      Replying to @SR71999 @literalbanana @simplic10

      But this is far more nuanced than the original wording.

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      Ordinary Banana‏ @literalbanana 15 Jan 2018
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      Replying to @SR71999 @simplic10

      not sure what the debate is? people believed in medicine way before the 40s and continue to do so idk

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        1. Synthetic‏ @SR71999 15 Jan 2018
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          What he said: "What we are MOSTLY getting out of medicine is what we get out of kissing a boo-boo." = What we are mostly getting is no more than placebo. What he meant: After accounting for the genuinely sick, medicine is an opportunity to signal and more harmful than not.

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        2. Ordinary Banana‏ @literalbanana 15 Jan 2018
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          indeed! there are a few more caveats - lots of what is done for the genuinely sick is wasted I’m sure

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