as coined originally by @stewartbrand, it also wants to be expensive, which i understood to mainly be referring to information asymmetry and how power dynamics arise from it.
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Replying to @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 @BobMcElrath and
i do still believe the information wants - even deserves in some sense - to be free despite my snark above, but for that to actually work out positively we have to to be more discerning, to prune toxic information which on the whole results in less information being disseminated
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nothingmuch Retweeted nothingmuch
some context is missing since
@YangVentures was suspended, but this sums up how i feel in more detail, and how bullshit is a type of information that gets around the free/expensive balance:https://twitter.com/mHaGqnOACyFm0h5/status/1083811000984502274 …nothingmuch added,
nothingmuch @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5Replying to @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 @YangVentures @BitcoinVisualsbefore the internet new information was scarce and thus almost always valuable, so novelty was an effective heuristic when choosing what information to consume or judging its relevance. since many people still use this heuristic, it is often exploited to manufacture consent.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 @BobMcElrath and
Alan K Retweeted Extraordinary Banana
Reminds me of thishttps://twitter.com/literalbanana/status/1222516132759793664?s=21 …
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Extraordinary Banana Retweeted Extraordinary Banana
a different way of looking at bullshit https://twitter.com/literalbanana/status/1208789938294013952?s=21 …https://twitter.com/literalbanana/status/1208789938294013952 …
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Replying to @literalbanana @dappsec and
that is a healthy perspective, and i must admit i shitpost a bit too much... i suppose the point where it crosses the line is when it's done in bad faith, as an attempt to establish dominance hierarchies or deceive. zero sum vs. positive sum.
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Replying to @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 @literalbanana and
personally i find it hard to delineate, and i suppose that has to do with why i feel so strongly about it when it clearly a form of aggression
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Replying to @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 @literalbanana and
hmm, i suppose playful/performative bullshit can still be interpreted charitably & meaningfully, w/ cooperative principle seeming more general than Grice's account. otoh, Frankfurt's "On Bullshit" or the asymmetry principle don't apply, they're account for malicious type
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Replying to @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 @literalbanana and
i'd appreciate everyone else's thoughts on where they draw the line, feeling very ambivalent about this
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Replying to @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 @YangVentures
I think “bullshit” as frankfurt draws it is a very big category, and he only focuses on a small bad subset - if we cared deeply about truth 100% of the time we would get nothing done and have no fun AND be stupid
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I don’t have a good solution though - it’s something I’ve been thinking about a lot this year
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