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when the Simulators gave up pretending not to exist they uplifted the bananas first. if you are reading this be aware that words are fake

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    1. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Feb 22
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      I think it's worth expanding on the statement "my anarchism stops at infectious disease control", so I will. Infectious disease is fundamentally different from most other social-political problems in several important ways. First, and most importantly, it's *tractable*.https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/1231160076079173632 …

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      My anarchism stops at infectious disease control. If Trump sent the military into California to overthrow the government and get NCoV, typhus, plague, and general street-shitting under control...I wouldn't exactly applaud, but I wouldn't get too upset, either.
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    2. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Feb 22
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      That is, we have a lot of reasonably well-understood tools for managing infectious disease that we know work. Beyond that, we have a fairly well-developed understanding of infectious disease dynamics, how diseases spread through populations over time.

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    3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Feb 22
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      We understand epidemiology *much better* than we understand somewhat similar processes like the weather or the economy. We can say in many circumstances, with reasonable confidence, that applying interventions XYZ will get an epidemic under control.

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    4. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Feb 22
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      This is crucial. Most other purported government policy programs are bullshit, in the technical sense. There's no good reason to expect most policies to accomplish their putative goals, or anything at all (aside from lining some hidden party's pockets).

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    5. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Feb 22
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      (For more on that, read Huemer's "In Praise of Passivity": http://studiahumana.com/pliki/wydania/In%20Praise%20of%20Passivity.pdf …) Now, it's true that a lot of tools in the disease control toolkit are fairly coercive. But what's rarely appreciated is the ethical dimension of disease transmission.

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    6. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Feb 22
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      Someone carrying a deadly, contagious disease is someone who is generating potentially lethal externalities everywhere they go. Because we don't have a way to directly detect it, we don't think about it. But they might as well be firing randomly into a crowd.

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    7. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Feb 22
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      Putting someone in a quarantine is a coercive restriction of their liberty. Call me a statist, but I'm OK with coercively restricting the liberty of someone firing into a crowd, so I'm OK with quarantine as a tool to manage deadly communicable diseases.

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    8. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Feb 22
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      So to sum up: From a utilitarian perspective, infectious disease management justifies authoritarian interventions that other functions of the state do not, because the threat is very large and the interventions are demonstrably reliable in a way that other policies are not.

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    9. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Feb 22
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      As a postscript, I have a half-baked hypothesis that the rise of the progressive state is at least in part a reaction to the unreasonable effectiveness of public health interventions from say 1850 through 1910 -- a (failed) attempt to generalize the model to other problems.

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    10. Adam Strandberg‏ @The_Lagrangian Mar 3
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      I would read this essay/book if anyone wrote it

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      Extraordinary Banana‏ @literalbanana Mar 3
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      hm I’m not great with history but “public health” is like the final boss of abstract noun studies

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        1. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Mar 3
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          Replying to @literalbanana @The_Lagrangian

          "Infectious disease, and everything that leeches off infectious disease funding"

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          Replying to @literalbanana @The_Lagrangian @St_Rev

          Abstract noun studies also known as "Thinking about something in a normal way and then talking about it"

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