am i morgan? are you talking to him or i? "It's bad to change your life because of reasoned arguments" citation needed what i didn't say but would stand behind is "changing my life and habits by the force of pure reason" is fucking retarded
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Replying to @nosilverv @msutherl and
I think we mean different things by "pure reason". To me, it's very reasonable to consider my gut reactions, social traditions, etc. Then there's "overriding your subconscious feelings with someone else's system 2 argument" which is a real but rare failure mode of rationalists.
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ok that's def. not a classical definition then but that's fine. do you think that's what most people tag as "pure reason"? do you think that's what most rationalists tag as "pure reason"? > a real but rare failure mode of rationalists alternative-explain all the akrasia.
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Replying to @nosilverv @yashkaf and
I wasn't ascribing any valence – "dissociated" is not "better" or "further along." It's a different path. I might say it's an easier path, but hard to say.
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Replying to @msutherl @nosilverv and
As for whether post-rats are more embodied, it's mixed in my experience, but certainly the key thinkers are liable to be more woke in that way. Rationalists on the other hand are almost always disconnected from their bodies.
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Replying to @msutherl @nosilverv and
Ok, I'll buy that. I've been trying to get rationalists to go dancing or play soccer for years now, with limited success. But I wouldn't jump from "disembodied" to "autistic and traumatized".
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disembodiment (dissociation) and many autistic (anti-social) traits (See mark zuck) comes from a response to traumapic.twitter.com/CG90oflLou
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Replying to @nosilverv @msutherl and
Putanumonit Jacob Retweeted eigenrobot
I think that this is the valley of bad post-rationality, which makes Eigen the first post-post-rationalist.https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/967114911401652225 …
Putanumonit Jacob added,
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Replying to @yashkaf @nosilverv and
what is bad post-rationality? taking it seriously instead of just shitposting?
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Replying to @literalbanana @nosilverv and
Post-rationality: finding out that what was missing for you in Rationality discourse is X ∈ [trauma/spirituality/embodiment/equanimity/etc]. Bad post-rationality: assuming that every other rationalist's problem is lack of X.
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that’s a very interesting interpretation that I’d never though about before! (both of them)
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Replying to @literalbanana @yashkaf and
That's not quite the historical case, but I like it Post-rat to me is just
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it’s not a real thing it’s just a joke but I love seeing how people make it real
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