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    1. Samuel Hammond  🌐 🏛‏ @hamandcheese Jul 26
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      Samuel Hammond  🌐 🏛 Retweeted Noam

      I've anecdotally sensed a rising premium for people who can write well. Writing skills are very hard to teach. But maybe it's a side-effect of typical college grads reverting to the mean, i.e. writing quality rises in importance as the signal quality of a degree declines.https://twitter.com/NoamJStein/status/1154595162926067714 …

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      Noam @NoamJStein
      Declines in vocabulary among American adults within levels of educational attainment https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2019-twenge.pdf … pic.twitter.com/ctrKtEZiSW
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    2. Robert Mariani‏ @robert_mariani Jul 26
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      Replying to @hamandcheese

      Doing documentation/technical tutorials, this is particularly apparent to me. Very smart people with sharp technical skills (much sharper than mine) who just aren't good at writing

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    3. Robert Mariani‏ @robert_mariani Jul 26
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      Replying to @robert_mariani @hamandcheese

      I wonder how effective actually trying to teach good writing is, as opposed to letting people figure it out over a long period of reading/writing

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    4. Samuel Hammond  🌐 🏛‏ @hamandcheese Jul 26
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      It can be taught but there's no substitute for just tons of reading and writing. Knowing good writing is noncognitive. It's being able to see two equally grammatical sentences and knowing that one "feels" better than the other.

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    5. Robert Mariani‏ @robert_mariani Jul 26
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      Replying to @hamandcheese

      Ive considered that the best way to improve someone's writing is just telling them, "read these 10 books and 20 articles with excellent prose"

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    6.  🤖 sonya, supposedly  🎀‏ @sonyasupposedly Jul 26
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      I think it depends on what axis you're trying to improve. You can teach people to write more grammatically, perhaps more clearly. Can you teach prose styling ability? I'm doubtful

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    7.  🤖 sonya, supposedly  🎀‏ @sonyasupposedly Jul 26
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      Replying to @sonyasupposedly @robert_mariani @hamandcheese

      like "vary the length of your sentences" is just not enough

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      Ordinary Banana‏ @literalbanana Jul 26
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      Replying to @sonyasupposedly @robert_mariani @hamandcheese

      yeah it seems to reduce to “just, like, perfectly model the mind of the reader, just like”

      1:16 PM - 26 Jul 2019
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        2. Dogs Don't Have Thumbs‏ @MorlockP Jul 26
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          Replying to @literalbanana @sonyasupposedly and

          memo to self: have long conversation w @sonyasupposedly f2f someday re writing, bc this is something that we both care a lot about and have lots of thoughts on but have somehow never discussed

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        3.  🤖 sonya, supposedly  🎀‏ @sonyasupposedly Jul 26
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          Replying to @MorlockP @literalbanana and

          I would love this!!!!

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        1. very offline potat‏ @metapotat Jul 26
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          Replying to @literalbanana @sonyasupposedly and

          Teaching people to model the reader, like, at all, seems good. Something one of my grad advisors made this click into place and improved writing. It's still bad though.

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