Ordinary Banana

I believe it elevates animals to a level of personhood where it's immoral to exploit their bodies for your own gainb without their consent, but also not enough personhood where they could ever give their consent

that’s interesting! haha my first response was “that’s meaty and interesting” then I thought it might be offensive sorry

“personhood” is such a weird thing that it seems like it has to be involved, it’s practically a paradox as it is

I second this framing, the logic is a lot like exploitation of labor (I answered ‘suffering’ because its basically right/closest)

Which is why it extends to prohibiting animal products from honey to animal-based glues in shoes(it is a Thing), but some vegans are ok with cashmere because traditionally it’s not harvested *from* the goats, but from plants that collect the hair from the goats’ underbelly

oh interesting - I wonder about ciscus resin (plant) harvested from goat bellies? probably annoys them tbh