What’s the moral core of veganism type stuff? Only answer if you understand it
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Replying to @literalbanana
ohhh very interesting question almost every vegan who tried to turn me vegan back when i was vegetarian cared about both suffering and nature, but didn't rally for ecological reform nearly as much as stopping livestock farming etc.
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Replying to @estnihil @literalbanana
see the thing is however, the 'i care about suffering' thing is highly related to the kind of suffering i.e. natural suffering is GOOD, human-caused suffering is EVIL most vegans fall for the same optimistic trap that VHEMT fall for: natural suffering is different & prestige
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oh no this is more a steelman of David Pearce-esque veganism which is almost entirely non-mainstream (i.e. natural suffering is bad and should be modified) usually vegans align with P E T A etc. e.g. animals dying of starvation is fine so long as humans didn't cause it
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yeah taking out the worst suffering agents in nature would be a goal, e.g.
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