over the years I’ve really come to think that retribution/revenge is important
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otherwise smilansky’s “funishment” wouldn’t make people so mad https://philpapers.org/rec/SMIHDA
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they ARE separate!...at least in the analysis. And what I'm saying is I think both are correct, but the game theory part is PROVABLY correct, and it's sufficient to carry the entire case, so while I'm interested in hearing more, I'm already convinced of the overall "punish" thry
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