The position that virtually all info under the umbrellas 'pseudoscience' or 'parapsychology' or 'paranormal phenomena' or 'mysticism' is highly suspect and can reasonably be assumed to be false/fictitious
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Replying to @bigmastertroll @Aella_Girl
Correct. I think many of the qualia described in these areas are much more than mere hallucination or self-delusion; I think the world is much stranger/more astonishing than we commonly realize (Of course there's still likely plenty of bad info in these categories as well)
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Replying to @_jordan_bates @Aella_Girl
awesome -- i WISH so much i cd believe but the reports of these mystical things don't seem to make sense in a way that can't also just be explained as coincidental or motivated? do you have any examples/arguments that get around this
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Replying to @bigmastertroll @Aella_Girl
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this thread might contain some signals/breadcrumbs you're looking for: https://twitter.com/_jordan_bates/status/1083099011320610817 … at a certain point i had just personally experienced enough extranormal qualia and met enough ppl who had also experienced a variety as well it became clear there was more going on
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j o r d a n 🦑 b a t e s @_jordan_batesfeedback for ingroup/metarational twitter: imho UST/ingroup is biased in the direction of rationality/current scientific orthodoxy (despite attempting to transcend/include rationality) and overly averse to the value of 'the ineffable' / learning via direct experience thoughts? https://twitter.com/_jordan_bates/status/924124150939099137 …Show this thread1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
the best way to learn about this territory is to find out for yourself. meditate, lucid dream, do breathwork, do other rituals aimed at initiating non-ordinary states of consciousness, take psychedelics in a responsible/wise way (if they're not contraindicated for you)
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I completely approve of this method - very fun!
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Replying to @literalbanana @_jordan_bates and
I don’t “believe” in woo but I can totally make a ball of energy in my hands for massage
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Banana, are there particular 'woo' ideas/phenomena that you (strongly) suspect are more true/real and/or more complex/interesting than commonly assumed by scientism-y anti-woo people? Which ones? Or 'woo' ideas/phenomena you straight-up suspect are true/real and not delusions?
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Replying to @_jordan_bates
ones I think are real - imagining things is a direct way to getting your body to do things
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Replying to @literalbanana @_jordan_bates
so like, imagining beams of light shooting out of your fingers might be the only way to get into the yoga pose right
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