Ordinary Banana

I find “painlessly wiping out the biosphere” implausible

I posited that killing everyone would be negative-utility. But if we're being utilitarians, it would still be the right thing to do if if it's less painful than the *combined pain* of billions upon billions of lives stretching forwards for thousands upon thousands of years.

(Not being utilitarians is fine, btw. But someone else could be).

this seems odd given that most of the politics I see ANs advocating is like, pro-gene editing anti-drug war

"We don't live like that's the logical consequences of our ideology" isn't really an answer to "that's the logical consequence of your ideology."

the ideology isn’t a straw man version of itself though

are you saying if I really believed that suffering is bad I’d commit mass genocide? seems counterproductive

Anti-natalism isn't "suffering is bad." "If suffering is bad the logical thing is to commit genocide" doesn't make sense. "If human life is of negative value the logical thing is to commit genocide" *does* make sense.