lol no it doesn’t wtf
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Replying to @literalbanana
Antinatalists think human life has negative value. Hence, it is consistent with antinatalism to attempt to end all human life. QED.
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Replying to @PereGrimmer
drug warriors think drugs have negative value. therefore it’s consistent with drug warring to end all life to destroy drugs
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Replying to @literalbanana @PereGrimmer
But this is because people who are anti-drug are more pro-human-life than they are anti-drug. What is the countervailing value in the anti-natalist case? My guess would be "anti-killing." I just don't think that should logically constrain a utilitarian.
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(That is, killing could be bad even if life is bad, so that everyone just deciding not to reproduce would be *better* than killing everyone. But wiping everyone out will still be net positive utility points compared to thousands of years of future negative-utility lives).
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Replying to @SometimesSoftly @PereGrimmer
I find “painlessly wiping out the biosphere” implausible
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Replying to @literalbanana @PereGrimmer
I posited that killing everyone would be negative-utility. But if we're being utilitarians, it would still be the right thing to do if if it's less painful than the *combined pain* of billions upon billions of lives stretching forwards for thousands upon thousands of years.
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(Not being utilitarians is fine, btw. But someone else could be).
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Replying to @SometimesSoftly @PereGrimmer
this seems odd given that most of the politics I see ANs advocating is like, pro-gene editing anti-drug war
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like I guess maybe if it got super popular there would have to be an evil branch but that’s not about ideas
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and it will never be popular
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