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    1. Jason P. Steed‏ @5thCircAppeals 30 Nov 2017

      Hopefully you know that I already know all that. How is any of that relevant to criticism of gerrymandering? Was gerrymandering intended by Founders as check on majority?

      3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    2. Jared Cook‏ @jkimballcook 30 Nov 2017
      Replying to @5thCircAppeals

      Maybe he only meant that in response to the electoral college part of your tweet.

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    3. Jason P. Steed‏ @5thCircAppeals 30 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jkimballcook

      Presumably. Though EC does not actually function in the way described.

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Sheldon Gilbert‏ @sheldongilbert 30 Nov 2017
      Replying to @5thCircAppeals @jkimballcook

      The problem you identify isn't caused by the electoral college; it's caused by state law apportionment of electoral votes. States don't need to adopt winner-take-all. California & NY should lead by example & provide proportional electoral votes.

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    5. Lawrence Hurley‏Verified account @lawrencehurley 30 Nov 2017
      Replying to @sheldongilbert @5thCircAppeals @jkimballcook

      Carry on dreaming

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    6. Sheldon Gilbert‏ @sheldongilbert 30 Nov 2017
      Replying to @lawrencehurley @5thCircAppeals @jkimballcook

      But I keep hearing residents of NY and CA complain that the electoral college unfairly (immorally?) disenfranchises voters. Those residents should be anxious to correct this injustice in their own states.

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    7. Lawrence Hurley‏Verified account @lawrencehurley 30 Nov 2017
      Replying to @sheldongilbert @5thCircAppeals @jkimballcook

      Right -- something Dem voters in Texas and Florida no doubt sympathize with

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    8. Sheldon Gilbert‏ @sheldongilbert 30 Nov 2017
      Replying to @lawrencehurley @5thCircAppeals @jkimballcook

      If Dem voters in California really think that it is unjust or immoral to deprive voters of proportional representation, they can actually do something about it in California, where they have the votes to correct the injustice.

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    9. Lawrence Hurley‏Verified account @lawrencehurley 30 Nov 2017
      Replying to @sheldongilbert @5thCircAppeals @jkimballcook

      Yes I'm sure if they did Texas would immediately follow suit ...

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    10. Mike Snyder‏ @MichaelMSnyder 30 Nov 2017
      Replying to @lawrencehurley @sheldongilbert and

      I don’t think you have to expect the favor to be returned in other states where it helps your party in order to correct grave injustices in your own state.

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      Lawrence Hurley‏Verified account @lawrencehurley 30 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MichaelMSnyder @sheldongilbert and

      No one in their right mind in any state would ever do this unless other states did it (and even then they might not). Of course this issue would be resolved if EC tossed and was replaced by popular vote

      2:17 PM - 30 Nov 2017
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        2. Sheldon Gilbert‏ @sheldongilbert 30 Nov 2017
          Replying to @lawrencehurley @MichaelMSnyder and

          Is that just a fancy way to say that people don't really believe that it's an immoral/unjust system? ;)

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        3. Jason P. Steed‏ @5thCircAppeals 30 Nov 2017
          Replying to @sheldongilbert @lawrencehurley and

          No. And you know that.

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        4. Sheldon Gilbert‏ @sheldongilbert 30 Nov 2017
          Replying to @5thCircAppeals @lawrencehurley and

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        5. Jason P. Steed‏ @5thCircAppeals 30 Nov 2017
          Replying to @sheldongilbert @lawrencehurley and

          I can't tell if you're assuming the left argues in bad faith or if it's you who is arguing in bad faith. Surely you know one can see X & Y as unjust but not want to change X unless it includes changing Y.

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        6. Sheldon Gilbert‏ @sheldongilbert 30 Nov 2017
          Replying to @5thCircAppeals @lawrencehurley and

          If you lived in California, and this were up for a vote, how would you vote?

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        7. Jason P. Steed‏ @5thCircAppeals 30 Nov 2017
          Replying to @sheldongilbert @lawrencehurley and

          If the whole system won't be fixed to be more just for everyone, then "fixing" CA (or TX) alone only makes the overall system LESS just. So I vote no until/unless we're getting more overall justice.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        8. Sheldon Gilbert‏ @sheldongilbert 30 Nov 2017
          Replying to @5thCircAppeals @lawrencehurley and

          Got it. So, if you had a chance to enfranchise your otherwise-disenfranchised neighbors, you wouldn't do so, because the overall political results would be unfavorable for you. I understand the pragmatism of the position.

          4 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        9. Jason P. Steed‏ @5thCircAppeals 30 Nov 2017
          Replying to @sheldongilbert @lawrencehurley and

          Again, either you assume I'm arguing in bad faith or you are arguing in bad faith. (Or maybe it's cynicism instead of bad faith.) Either way, it's yuck.

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        1. Mike Snyder‏ @MichaelMSnyder 30 Nov 2017
          Replying to @lawrencehurley @sheldongilbert and

          My argument—and Sheldon’s, I think—isn’t that people in any state are inclined to apportion their EC votes. People are rarely inclined to do things that hurt them politically. I’m merely implying that they ~should~ because it’s better than status quo (and popular vote).

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