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    Ella  ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @latentexistence 7 Feb 2020

    Looks like somebody at Giggle got a bit upset by all the criticism. It’s still bullshit though.pic.twitter.com/JCNFRXrK9A

    A screenshot is which the following text is highlighted: Bio-Science, not pseudo-science like phrenology, is behind this process. It determines both male and female genders and does not discriminate by race or age. Gender Identity is a separate issue.
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      2. Ella  ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @latentexistence 7 Feb 2020

        Giggle were claiming to analyse bone structure. Through a camera. That was such obvious nonsense. They’re just using AI to analyse faces, and that is notoriously bad at guessing gender and is almost always racist.

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      3. Ella  ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @latentexistence 7 Feb 2020

        Judging by the privacy agreement they’re sending all faces to a third party to actually analyse, so have fun feeding the database.

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      4. Ella  ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @latentexistence 7 Feb 2020

        Giggle were saying that trans women should just contact them to get approved. As a disabled person, I have found that if you have to ask for access separately, it’s not equality. Having to ask is a barrier in itself. The same applies here.

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      5. Ella  ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @latentexistence 7 Feb 2020

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        Here’s the previous FAQ, complete with claims of analysing bone structure. That “Are trans-girls welcome on Giggle?” is also gone now. https://twitter.com/drawnoutofshape/status/1225424114648854528 …

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      6. Ella  ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @latentexistence 8 Feb 2020

        I... didn’t even read down as far as “real girls and members of the LGBT community” when I took the screenshot. Wow.

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      7. Ella  ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @latentexistence 8 Feb 2020

        In the interests of fairness here’s the founder of Giggle saying that trans women are women in response to transphobes. She also says she worked with trans girls. That doesn’t change that this solution is horrible and the tech is bad though.pic.twitter.com/3uAoUPafr0

        A screenshot of a tweet from @salltweets. It starts “trans women are women”.
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      8. Ella  ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @latentexistence 8 Feb 2020

        I think the claims of checking bone structure are a failure to understand the tech. They can’t get bones from a 2D selfie. Even Apple Face ID which uses IR dot projection is looking at overall face shape and not bones. But if they were looking at bones that would be phrenology.

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      9. Ella  ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @latentexistence 8 Feb 2020

        Ok I need to stop talking about this whole thing but before I do: Giggle is “for girls” but rated for age 17+pic.twitter.com/2Tb6l7NvIz

        A screenshot of Giggle in the Apple App Store
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      10. Ella  ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @latentexistence 8 Feb 2020

        It occurred to me that I and many others took “bone structure” literally but a lot of other people might use it to mean face shape in general and maybe there’s a big misunderstanding here. (But face and gender recognition algorithms are still trash and this is discrimatory.)

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      1. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin 7 Feb 2020
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        I'm having a giggle just reading it.

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