Giggle were claiming to analyse bone structure. Through a camera. That was such obvious nonsense. They’re just using AI to analyse faces, and that is notoriously bad at guessing gender and is almost always racist.
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Judging by the privacy agreement they’re sending all faces to a third party to actually analyse, so have fun feeding the database.
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Giggle were saying that trans women should just contact them to get approved. As a disabled person, I have found that if you have to ask for access separately, it’s not equality. Having to ask is a barrier in itself. The same applies here.
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Here’s the previous FAQ, complete with claims of analysing bone structure. That “Are trans-girls welcome on Giggle?” is also gone now. https://twitter.com/drawnoutofshape/status/1225424114648854528 …
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I... didn’t even read down as far as “real girls and members of the LGBT community” when I took the screenshot. Wow.
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In the interests of fairness here’s the founder of Giggle saying that trans women are women in response to transphobes. She also says she worked with trans girls. That doesn’t change that this solution is horrible and the tech is bad though.pic.twitter.com/3uAoUPafr0
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I think the claims of checking bone structure are a failure to understand the tech. They can’t get bones from a 2D selfie. Even Apple Face ID which uses IR dot projection is looking at overall face shape and not bones. But if they were looking at bones that would be phrenology.
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Ok I need to stop talking about this whole thing but before I do: Giggle is “for girls” but rated for age 17+pic.twitter.com/2Tb6l7NvIz
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It occurred to me that I and many others took “bone structure” literally but a lot of other people might use it to mean face shape in general and maybe there’s a big misunderstanding here. (But face and gender recognition algorithms are still trash and this is discrimatory.)
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I'm having a giggle just reading it.
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