how often did that losing of the mandate actually happen? the Ender's Game series mentions this a lot (to Orson Scott Card's credit, the losing part is definitely in there)
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I dunno where I fall on that, but I do notice how everyone's answers to pacifists seem to boil down to "but isn't there a lot of murdering going on in the *real world*?" and it seems like they can ultimately just say "yeah, but doesn't that suck?"
Quite! Confucianism seems to, at times at least, have a too naive faith in moral suasion - Mengzi, for instance, sometimes seems to argue that a good regime is uninvadable, because surely the opposing armies would lay down the arms and refuse to kill if it meant opposing justice.
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But even if I don't endorse, I can at least feel inspired by the sentiment. Far rather be guided in my moral appraisal by these people for whom killing is a horror and barbarism than by the folk who are ever so keen to prove that they'd totally do violence *to the right people*.
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especially since "the right people" to direct violence and abuse towards so often end up being whoever we're mad at at the moment, no matter who the slogans or principles identify as the ultimate enemy *stares at Killmonger fans*
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