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    Liam Bright‏ @lastpositivist 25 Feb 2018

    Folk in #philosophy a question for yinz. I always think of the canon as stuff there’s a normative expectation that someone finishing an undergrad degree (or at about that level) be familiar with. So it’s primarily a teaching category. Does this accord with your sense of the term?

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      1. Natalie Alana Ashton  🌾‏ @Natalan 25 Feb 2018
        Replying to @lastpositivist

        Yes, very much.

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      1. You Wouldn't Know Him‏ @MKP0tter 25 Feb 2018
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        Yes

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      2. CrankyPhilosopher‏ @FrueheNeuzeit 25 Feb 2018
        Replying to @lastpositivist

        Do you know Lisa Shapiro's paper on that in the APA journal?

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      3. Liam Bright‏ @lastpositivist 25 Feb 2018
        Replying to @FrueheNeuzeit

        No I don’t! Link would be welcome, but I can take a look later.

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      2. Jonathan Livengood‏ @Prof_Livengood 25 Feb 2018
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        I'm not sure I have any definite meaning that I attach to the term "canon" as used in philosophy. (I don't use the term much if ever.) As to the normative expectation, I think there is an expectation that students will be familiar with the early modern canon. But ...

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      3. Jonathan Livengood‏ @Prof_Livengood 25 Feb 2018
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        It seems plausible that there is a canonical list of medieval philosophers, a canonical list of Islamic philosophers, of pragmatist philosophers, or German idealists, of existentialists, etc., etc. I don't think there is any expectation of familiarity with *those* canons.

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      2. Norbert Wiener Kreis‏ @carl_b_sachs 25 Feb 2018
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        I have opinions on this! I think of "the canon" as the backbone of grad school (1st 2 years of professionalization). I don't think it has much bearing on undergrad education & we're hurting our students by treating it as if it does or should.

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      3. Liam Bright‏ @lastpositivist 25 Feb 2018
        Replying to @carl_b_sachs @sachs_carl

        What do you think makes it good for graduates but not undergraduates?

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      1. Liam Bright‏ @lastpositivist 25 Feb 2018

        Aye that is the sort of thing I have in mind! For the record I don't mean a normative expectation that you yourself share, I just meant that there is in the community such a normative expectation.

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      1. Liam Bright‏ @lastpositivist 25 Feb 2018
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        Two things. 1 ) I don't mean a normative expectation that you yourself endorse, more asking what your sense of the social sense of a canon is. 2 ) I don't really see what makes the normative expectations approach fit with the training-for-specialists approach, can you say more?

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