@landonfuller There are no quotes about it. Code injection is a security vulnerability and had been used by malware in the past.
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@launchz Whatever the malware used to acquire task port rights was the vulnerability. - View other replies
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@landonfuller Distinguishing between a legitimate use and an attacker isn't always possible with technology. -
@launchz In which case you have to decide whether you believe the solution lies in paternalism or individual empowerment. -
@landonfuller@launchz Is “individual empowerment” another way of saying “caveat emptor”? -
@landonfuller@launchz Whatever happened to “personal responsibility”, anyway? Computers are *supposed* to be dangerous! -
@optshiftk@launchz A chainsaw isn't supposed to be dangerous, but it's supposed to be able to cut down trees. - View other replies
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@landonfuller@optshiftk We found that 90% of trees our customers wanted to cut down could be handled by a far less dangerous chainsaw. ;) - View other replies
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@landonfuller what is wrong with turning it off because you want to use these tools? - View other replies
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@mxswd On top of which, why should it be necessary to disable ALL security to have any degree of granular control? - View other replies
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@landonfuller though if you did want to do this properly you could put attach to that process into a kext and sign it? -
@mxswd kext signing requires individual use-case approval from Apple to add the requisite 'kext' bit to your certificate. -
@landonfuller that sucks. Can you add signing authorities manually? I'm not sure, I've never checked. -
@mxswd Nope :/ It's hard-coded to require Apple CA as an anchor :( http://xref.plausible.coop/source/xref/macosx-10.10.1/kext_tools-384.1.4/security.c#1238 … -
@landonfuller ugh. Ok. Well last I recalled there is a boot arg for just disabling kext signing. I'm out of ideas for now. -
@mxswd You can also currently end-run the whole thing as root by manually loading the kext (kext signing verification is userspace)
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@ZenSaiyuki That's the end-game, yes. Accepting the loss of data (platform apps, iCloud), media (iTunes), books (iBooks) and jumping ship. -
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@ZenSaiyuki If there wasn't any lock-in after investing 15 years in a very different Apple ecosystem, there wouldn't be an issue to discuss. - Show more
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