I haven't seen anyone in this thread say that a woman should stay with her abuser. Of course the article is dreadful. Of course people are responsible for their actions.
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Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and
No, what was said that incels are the result of unrequited love and a connection will fix that. But whose responsibility is it to connect with a person who once you've decided you don't want to be with them, you've essentially signed your own death warrant.
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Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and
Personal anecdote: I was married to an abusive man. Complete psychopath, tho' people still don't believe me, because he's charming. I was legally responsible for him, because I married him. I was also a qualified therapist, so: professional pride! Had to end it. Still stalks me.
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Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @lacuchina and
I've been a Family & Relationships Therapist, & Conflict Resolution Mediator, where the goal is to help people repair relationships. Abuse is never OK. It's something that must be changed, & I wouldn't tell a victim to stay, even if the abuser makes promises of change.
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Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and
I'm sorry that happened (and continues) to happen to you. However the greater issue here is not that people stay in abusive relationships, but that there is an inference that people need to enter relationships with men who are socially inept and inadequate, to "fix" them.
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Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and
I haven't read ANYBODY say that.
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Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and
I direct you back to the first tweet where it was stated that unrequited love was the cause of incels and that a “connection” would fix that. Which of us will be that sacrifice? The one who will most likely end up dead when we fail to “connect” using the incels rules?
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Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and
@lacuchina I don't know why you would think I'm suggesting we follow "Incel rules". I'm not. Are you?2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and
By saying that an incel can be helped by forming connections with them discounts that they have a set of rules they follow and we don’t know those rules until we break them. The rules of social engagement (sexual or otherwise) do not apply with these men, yet we are being told to
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Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and
Being told to follow "Incel rules" by who? Certainly not me! I'm talking about the need for Community Development & Social Education programs.
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I did not say that you said we must follow incel rules. I said that if we “connect” and then fail to do so, that will inevitably harm us.
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