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    1. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      Hi Annie :) I'm in the Antipodes too! It kind of feels like you're talking over someone in your anger, & having trouble "connecting" right now. I'm sure you'll tell me that you're very well connected with people around you. Maybe you could role model that, instead of attacking?

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    2. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      I am role modeling. I'm role modeling the absolute non-acceptance that people should be held responsible for the behaviour of incels and psychopaths, that we are somehow responsible because we've failed to connect with the people who insist that raping us is an acceptable action.

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    3. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      I haven't seen anyone in this thread say that a woman should stay with her abuser. Of course the article is dreadful. Of course people are responsible for their actions.

      2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    4. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      No, what was said that incels are the result of unrequited love and a connection will fix that. But whose responsibility is it to connect with a person who once you've decided you don't want to be with them, you've essentially signed your own death warrant.

      6 replies 3 retweets 191 likes
    5. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      Personal anecdote: I was married to an abusive man. Complete psychopath, tho' people still don't believe me, because he's charming. I was legally responsible for him, because I married him. I was also a qualified therapist, so: professional pride! Had to end it. Still stalks me.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @lacuchina and

      I've been a Family & Relationships Therapist, & Conflict Resolution Mediator, where the goal is to help people repair relationships. Abuse is never OK. It's something that must be changed, & I wouldn't tell a victim to stay, even if the abuser makes promises of change.

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    7. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      I'm sorry that happened (and continues) to happen to you. However the greater issue here is not that people stay in abusive relationships, but that there is an inference that people need to enter relationships with men who are socially inept and inadequate, to "fix" them.

      5 replies 4 retweets 189 likes
    8. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      I haven't read ANYBODY say that.

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    9. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      I direct you back to the first tweet where it was stated that unrequited love was the cause of incels and that a “connection” would fix that. Which of us will be that sacrifice? The one who will most likely end up dead when we fail to “connect” using the incels rules?

      4 replies 1 retweet 109 likes
    10. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      @lacuchina I don't know why you would think I'm suggesting we follow "Incel rules". I'm not. Are you?

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      Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      By saying that an incel can be helped by forming connections with them discounts that they have a set of rules they follow and we don’t know those rules until we break them. The rules of social engagement (sexual or otherwise) do not apply with these men, yet we are being told to

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        2. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

          Annie, it sounds like you're handing your personal power to Incel culture. It sounds like you're saying that you subscribe to their "rules". I suppose that's one way to develop a cohesive society, but it would end up like "A Handmaid's Tale". Could you rephrase, maybe?

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        3. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

          And now you’re being obtuse. I’m saying that the obligation to connect (as from the original post, and subsequent ones) to men like this puts people in danger because their rules are arbitrary. That is why demanding that it is society’s obligation to connect is a dangerous one.

          1 reply 0 retweets 33 likes
        4. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

          It is society's failure to connect that has caused it. There is a whole field called Social Psychology. "We" as a collective, not as individuals, ARE responsible. "We" have to stop creating people with Incel (& other damaging) beliefs.

          2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        5. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

          And yet “society” isn’t the one being asked to make connections. Society can’t do that. Individuals have to make connections. And these guys aren’t raping and killing “society”, they’re raping and killing us.

          3 replies 0 retweets 34 likes
        6. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

          3/ I'm starting to wonder if you're trolling me, with the insistent clinging to an idea that I (& now also the original commenter) have repeatedly refuted

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

          Okay. I’m exhausted and can’t do this anymore, so here’s my position and then let’s just call it quits. None of this is about unrequited love, it’s about certain men’s inability to accept that a women is not their for their enjoyment. Inadequate social conditions have been part

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        8. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
          Replying to @lacuchina @LyannaSpearwife and

          of this. Requiring society to make connections with these men puts people in danger. It is no-one’s responsibility to “fix” them, and holding people (and in particular, women) responsible for the actions of an individual because they failed to connect, is unacceptable. I see

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        9. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
          Replying to @lacuchina @LyannaSpearwife and

          your point about society creating and environment were these kind of people flourish, and it’s valid. The original poster’s point is still wrong, and she has not convinced me otherwise. Thank you for your discussion, I wish you well. Peace.

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        2. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
          Replying to @lacuchina @LyannaSpearwife and

          discount that knowledge and connect with them. That it is our responsibility to engage with these men to show that society can help them, yet with modern history showing that as soon as you break their arbitrary unknown rules, they will harm you.

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        3. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

          I have not said anywhere that individuals should seek out an Incel each and try to reprogram them through personal interactions. (Although, that is the Christian model of "friendship evangelism".) What I am saying is that the existence of Incels is a symptom of societal failure.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

          That we can agree on.

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        2. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

          Being told to follow "Incel rules" by who? Certainly not me! I'm talking about the need for Community Development & Social Education programs.

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        3. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

          I did not say that you said we must follow incel rules. I said that if we “connect” and then fail to do so, that will inevitably harm us.

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