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    helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

    So, until recently, I had really mixed feelings about “working with the right” when fighting for protections for gender dysphoric people, but now I have a few considerations to share with those who support efforts by/done with members of the socially conservative right

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      2. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        First I wanna say this does NOT come from a general hatred or distrust for those on the socially conservative right. In the past I really despised these people because I didn’t understand them. Now, that’s not the case, and I’d be happy to sit down and talk about gender,

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      3. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Sex, culture, etc with social conservatives because often their view is so far from my own, with points I have previously not been open to considering. But fighting a political and legal battle over such a politically charged issue as transgenderism is not the same as

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      4. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Having a conversation. Let me share two main reasons why. 1. The first one is more strategic. The main argument TRAs have against the diverse collection of individuals who have concerns about the trans movement is that we are motivated by small minded bigotry and a lack of

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      5. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Understanding of what a transgender person is or what they go through. Because of this, our NUMBER ONE PRIORITY is to undeniably show that we don’t come from a place of hatred or disgust towards people who do not conform to traditional gender roles, and that we are genuinely,

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      6. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Compassionately invested in the health and happiness of people with gender dysphoria. So what happens, politically, when we intentionally work with groups or figures that ARE read as coming from a place of disgust or bigotry, and ARE read as I empathetic or ignorant of the needs

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      7. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Of people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or gender dysphoric? We give the impression to uninitiated onlookers that we don’t really care about this population, because we are working with groups who historically have been unsupportive of common sense, mainstream acceptance

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      8. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Of LGB (and now gender dysphoric) issues in the past. And worst of all, we give TRAs the ultimate ammo to just point at us and say “see? They’re bigots! They work with the people who stand on corners and scream god hates fags!” When TRAs do this, and they always will, it’s

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      9. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        On the people who gave them this ammunition because we just made their jobs a whole lot easier. It’s a different thing arguing that TERFs don’t hate trans people, because radfems support gender nonconformity, and arguing that religious fundies don’t hate trans people because...

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      10. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Well... in some very public and obvious cases they ARE hostile to not only trans people, but GAY people as well. They lost that fight, big time, and now we’re partnering with the losing team on a TOTALLY separate issue just so they can do the obvious thing and smear us as

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      11. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Ignorant, outdated bigots? It’s not worth it, especially when you consider the tactics the socially conservative right use (like pushing state legislation) will be ineffective on this issue, just like it was with gay marriage. That’s a thing for another thread.

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      12. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Partnering with groups/figures who openly condemn homosexuality, gender nonconformance, hell, DIVORCE, is political suicide. And a lot of detransitioners are frustrated bc it’s setting back our effort to show that we are NOT fundie bigots who don’t understand trans people.

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      13. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        2. The second reason is more personal, and honestly now that I’m doing some deeper digging into some of the groups certain people have been working with, I feel hurt that they would do so, ESPECIALLY parents of trans identified people. I’m not talking about talking

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      14. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        To a journalist who happens to lean right, I’m talking about doing collaborative activism with groups or individuals who openly oppose homosexuality, gender nonconformity, even extra-marital sex. Like REALLY out there beliefs that aren’t accepted in the mainstream culture AT ALL.

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      15. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        We all know a huge percentage of people who suffer from gender dysphoria and are at risk of being harmed by medical transition are lesbian, gay, or bisexual, and that their dysphoria was in part motivated by internalized shame due to growing up in environments that made them

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      16. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Feel wrong or alien for their sexuality, with some having real trauma from abuse by family or community members due to their sexuality or gender nonconformity. So to partner with groups that espouse the kinds of ideas that lead to self loathing and gender dysphoria in these

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      17. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Young people, shows a deep level of misunderstanding and a lack of true empathy for detransitioners and others who suffer from gender dysphoria due to these ideas. Especially if you are a parent. It actually makes me very angry that some parents are choosing to do something

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      18. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        That will ultimately most likely feel like a betrayal to their child over other more meaningful steps, like supporting detransitioners or working on the smaller scale issues that are causing distress to their children in the first place. From my perspective, partnering with

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      19. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        These groups or public figures who espouse seriously anti-gay and anti-GNC views shows that you fundamentally do NOT want to truly understand, connect with, or really at the end of the day HELP people suffering from gender dysphoria. It’s easy to paint the whole problem as an

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      20. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Evil trans lobby that needs to be stopped at all costs than it is to really sit down and listen to what the people who have been HURT by this movement have to say about how you can help. Most detransitioners will tell you this kind of activism not only doesn’t help, it actively

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      21. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Makes our jobs and our lives harder, and it also hurts us on a personal level. It shows a misunderstanding of the problem, and an emotionally driven black and white approach to this very complicated issue. If you are someone who truly cares about the people who are being

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      22. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Victimized by the trans movement, please stop conducting activism with the socially conservative (religious) right. This doesn’t mean demonize them. This doesn’t mean don’t talk to them. This means stop supporting an agenda that hurts the population you claim to want to help.

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      23. helena‏ @lacroicsz 11 Feb 2020

        Lastly, if you would like to talk to me more about this issue and why I have come to the conclusions I have, I invite you to! You can send me a message on curious cat, it’s in my bio. Thanks for reading and I hope we can all help people in ways that are effective and meaningful.

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