itll be incredible to watch how trump manages to triangulate against whoever terrible democrat steals the 2020 nomination and comes across as more woke/leftist (again lol) even as he literally presides over these wretched institutionshttps://twitter.com/banditelli/status/972123325659889664 …
I’m amazed that afroamericans aren’t more involved with the immigration debate. The resources allocated towards illegal immigrants are resources that could be allocated towards fixing their communities. Unfortunately I feel black America is firmly entrapped in a political machine
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i think yr right re: labor force/automation but not as sure on the rest. & the laws for getting a green card legally are byzantine, difficult, and intrusive as it is, even for net 'productive' foreigners. for ppl w/ nothing to lose that then encourages overstaying visas
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when ppl see stories about a quasi-military force aggressively enforcing these laws, larping some kind of military occupation against ppl who are *not that distant* essentially, sending them away to camps, depriving them of due process, ppl are right to be angry about it imo
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I think our views on the issue differ fundamentally due to my rightist/nationalist bent. I don’t believe we owe illegal immigrants due process nor any guarantee of humane treatment. That’s the mexican governments problem.
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ICE’s militancy should serve as a deterrent to would be illegal immigrants. We should do nothing to incentivize their movement here.
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yeah we have a fundamental impasse but i also think that sort of policing is ultimately bad for everyone--normalizing a lot of intrusive surveillance (as with war on drugs/terror) that extends to citizens, that 100-from-border/coast extraconstitutional zone thing comes to mind
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Once again I agree, but initiatives such as the ones you describe are legitimatized by the need for stronger border security. If you want less intrusive/militant border policing, then we need to do something that structurally reduces the flow of migrants from Mexico and beyond.
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