itll be incredible to watch how trump manages to triangulate against whoever terrible democrat steals the 2020 nomination and comes across as more woke/leftist (again lol) even as he literally presides over these wretched institutionshttps://twitter.com/banditelli/status/972123325659889664 …
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dont think that necessarily follows from this, ICE is the centralization of a lot of different agencies after 9/11 into one organization that has a lot of sweeping powers and does a lot of particularly brutal high profile things with a paranoid mandate characteristic of the time
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my point is more that liberals will get mired in the wonkish defense of these institutions (that are very unpopular with their base) and trump will actually run circles around this b/c its illustrative of their deference to arbitrary authority and utter lack of creativity
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Once again, a pleasantly pragmatic and level headed response. I agree with your innate distrust of such institutions and your analyses of trumps relationship to them, but we need a governmental organ that is capable of stopping the flow of illegal immigrants effectively.
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Our school system, welfare system, and healthcare system (not to mention economy) are stretched thin as is. Adding a few million unskilled migrants right before automation hits the fan is truly not a good idea.
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I’m amazed that afroamericans aren’t more involved with the immigration debate. The resources allocated towards illegal immigrants are resources that could be allocated towards fixing their communities. Unfortunately I feel black America is firmly entrapped in a political machine
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i think yr right re: labor force/automation but not as sure on the rest. & the laws for getting a green card legally are byzantine, difficult, and intrusive as it is, even for net 'productive' foreigners. for ppl w/ nothing to lose that then encourages overstaying visas
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when ppl see stories about a quasi-military force aggressively enforcing these laws, larping some kind of military occupation against ppl who are *not that distant* essentially, sending them away to camps, depriving them of due process, ppl are right to be angry about it imo
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I think our views on the issue differ fundamentally due to my rightist/nationalist bent. I don’t believe we owe illegal immigrants due process nor any guarantee of humane treatment. That’s the mexican governments problem.
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