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    Kim-Mai Cutler‏Verified account @kimmaicutler 2 May 2018
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    Kim-Mai Cutler Retweeted California Economy & Taxes

    “In normal times, CA’s statewide price-to-rent ratio tends to hover around 25. During the housing bubble, the statewide ratio exceeded 40. Currently, the ratio is 24 for markets outside the Bay Area. For 4 Bay Area counties, the ratio currently is somewhere between 40 and 45.”https://twitter.com/laoecontax/status/991780932200747013 …

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    California Economy & TaxesVerified account @LAOEconTax
    Home prices may be getting out of line with underlying demand in some parts of the Bay Area. http://lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/277 … pic.twitter.com/edjTTRs9a7
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      2. Sid Kapur‏ @sidkap_ 2 May 2018
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        Why is this happening? Like, why did prices rise 25-33% in Santa Clara county this year but rents didn't?

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      3. Market Urbanism‏ @MarketUrbanism 2 May 2018
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        The housing market always works in a boom/most cycle, with the price-to-rent ratio blowing up as the economic heats up and then shrinking as it busts

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      1. Brandon Duncan‏ @duncanbrandon 2 May 2018
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        Are they only using market rents in SF? Including rent controlled rents would make the ratio look bigger than it really is...

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      2. Alex Norman‏ @alexsnorman 2 May 2018
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        Replying to @kimmaicutler

        At 1/45 ratio, thats a 2.22% cap rate, implying that Bay Area housing is a safer investment than a 10 year US Treasury Bond.

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      3. H‏ @WldctH 2 May 2018
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        Assuming no maintenance costs

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      2. Tachi‏ @tachiweasel 2 May 2018
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        Replying to @kimmaicutler

        I just did the math on *condos* in SF and it worked out to just around 25x price-to-rent (counting rent for 5+ unit buildings). So the SF condo market seems a bit healthier than the single family home market, which is bananas.

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      3. Tachi‏ @tachiweasel 2 May 2018
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        (Specifically: https://www.paragon-re.com/trend/charts-of-the-day … says median condo price of $1.24M / median rent for 5+ units of ~$3700 == 28x.)

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      1. Jim‏ @jim_again 3 May 2018
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        That ratio (a 4% overall return) incorporates current implicit market rent as current return + expected future price appreciation. As the ratio rises (e.g. valuations rise), it generally means expectations of even higher price appreciation. Which is how markets crash.

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      2. Occupy the Port  🌹 #4aPeoplesParty‏ @occupytheport 2 May 2018
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        As interests rates climb and the economic cycle runs its course (it has), there’s going to be a day of serious reckoning for a lot of folks that took on big mortgages, car payments and borrowed from time retirements. Bank on it.

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