Don't read Zoned Out. Have more respect for yourself and your time than that.
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If you want to convince me it’s that bad, can you link me a review that illuminates its problems?
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Poorly fact checked, poorly documented claims generally. Insight that I saw in it – NYC is very responsive to the exclusionary desires of what n’hoods – only discussed briefly, and conclusion seems to be that that deference is fine, they just need to apply it to poorer areas too
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Nobody’s reviewed it that I know of, probably because even many lefty affordable housing activists in NYC don’t hold Angotti in very high regard
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I have to say as a lefty affordable housing person that the claims of "we distrust Angotti/Morse/Marcuse etc." are greatly exaggerated. Additionally, the demographic facts of rezoning in the areas are undeniable. Even Bloomberg's housing czar admitted that they failed miserably.
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You talking about when Amanda Burden said “we built 30k units a year every year and thought rents would go down but they didn’t,” when in fact they didn’t even permit close to that?
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yup. mind you, I don't think Burden gave a s**t. Christine Quinn also said politically connected devs got "a wink and a nod" w/ city planning to design upzones while BK community orgs wouldn't get a callback. if the Trumps are any sign, they got a wink and a nod from the DA too
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Both the pro-development and anti-development community groups didn't get calls back. There's a ring of pro-dev immigrants on the city's outer rim (Chinese in NE Queens, Russians in southern Bklyn, South Asians in SE Queens) who felt like the city screwed them by siding with...
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...their white NIMBY neighbors when they downzoned those areas (probably not because they believed in downzoning, but because they needed something to trade in exchange for their higher-profile upzonings)
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we disagree a ton but if the general thrust of this convo converges on "the politics of upzoning is rigged" I'm willing to rest it for now. I only object to the way in which a vague concept of "upzoning" is fetishized as a sui generis solution to racism & classism in housing
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addressing the effects of racism in 20th century American housing policy probably requires targeted reparations based on comparative lack of historical home equity appreciation between redlined and non-redlined tracts of housing.
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I think we should have a "race and class" version of EIR in city planning, which is what Angotti pushes for in Zoned Out: "if land speculation encourages landlords around a newly upzoned area to kick out tenants can they actually move into what you're building"
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Intended goal: nobody should ever be priced out of a neighborhood due to construction Possibly unintended result: nothing is ever constructed
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