Of course, we always knew there was a contingent of Americans who wouldn't accept this, who loved America only as a White Empire, and who would fight to keep it thus. What changed since the mid-2010s, I think, was that we discovered just how large that contingent was.
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And I think the question is: Once the people who want America to be a White Empire are inevitably defeated, will people go back to believing that American ideals were anti-racist from the start, or will they demand that America be abolished? (end)
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Those ideals weren’t anti-racist from the start. Or maybe words have no meaning. This makes for an updated version of our Founding myth but it’s still just a Nobel Lie
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Hey Matt I want to clarify something.
@Noahpinion is concerned you may want to abolish America. Is this true or not?3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes -
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Note that I don't think people like Matt want to abolish America now, only that if Trump and the white supremacists remain in power for a long time, they are likely to conclude that there is no alternative.
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If you believe America’s ideals are anti-racist, but a white supremacist seizes power and corrupts its systems and norms, shouldn’t you consider that event the abolishing of America, rather than some hypothetical Reconstruction to follow it?
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Not if the institutions are intact. Then you can kick out the white supremacist and go back to what you had before. BUT if the institutions are degraded so that they no longer function, then yeah
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I think the discussion is also — if our institutions and culture allowed this to even happen in the first place, then maybe something has been wrong with them even before this presidency and we need to figure out what it is and how to proactively fix it before this happens again.
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Sure. But maybe it's just a cultural thing, and a generation where half the people believed that America was a white ethnostate must simply pass into memory.
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I think the realization post-Obama, post-“post-racial” presidency is that this isn’t going to automatically happen.
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