Hey Matt I want to clarify something. @Noahpinion is concerned you may want to abolish America. Is this true or not?
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @MattMajeune
Note that I don't think people like Matt want to abolish America now, only that if Trump and the white supremacists remain in power for a long time, they are likely to conclude that there is no alternative.
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Replying to @Noahpinion @MattMajeune
What do you think the other paths would be?
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Replying to @Noahpinion @MattMajeune
If Trump and the white supremacists remain in power for a long time, what do you think the alternatives to “abolish America” would be?
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @MattMajeune
1) Keep trying to unseat them without abolishing America 2) Do nothing and accept their rule 3) Move out
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Replying to @Noahpinion @MattMajeune
It seems like the range of possibilities inside 1) is vast. Like would us switching to a different democratic governing system still nominally called America be abolishing America? Or is ending EC abolishing America?
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @MattMajeune
Well how could we switch to a different system with Trumpism in power?
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Replying to @Noahpinion @MattMajeune
Probably would require a vast, broad-based political movement. And perhaps people with a lot of vested interest or wealth in the existing system would strategically frame the motives of this movement as “abolish America” to protect those interests?
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @MattMajeune
The vast broad-based political movement would have to choose to try to win within the current system and then change the system, or abolish the system.
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It’s also possible there are multiple interconnected flanks of the movement and an “abolish” flank of the movement makes the “win within the system” part of the movement much more attractive to everyone.
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @MattMajeune
Sure, though "interconnected flanks" is a bit of a mixed metaphor, and would-be Overton Window shifters always run the risk of being taken too seriously...
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I think we’re really discussing the latter. Overton window shifters know they have to seem credibly scary enough to move the center of the window otherwise they’re not effective.
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