For less than 1/3rd of what California pays for its incarceration system, the @uofcalifornia system’s schools are the top in the country in terms of % of students from low-income households.https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/17/upshot/californias-university-system-an-upward-mobility-machine.html …
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @UofCalifornia
“cheaper than prison” is not a measure of success
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Replying to @micsolana @UofCalifornia
You completely ignored the point about it being the higher education system that is one of the most powerful engines of upward social mobility in the country, in contrast to trends at private universities.https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html …
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @UofCalifornia
separate from the question of whether elitist top-down social planning is the point of college, nothing you’ve cited is relevant to the original point of mine that *you* completely ignored: with standards these low the degrees will be worthless. your equalization is canceled.
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Replying to @micsolana @UofCalifornia
If the American dream is upward socioeconomic mobility, public universities are a major part of that. When you defund public education, you’re saying kids like these don’t deserve opportunity.https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/us/university-california-merced-latino-students.html …
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What do you think educates more than half of California’s medical students every year? And seriously, you’re mad about the SAT? If you’re so confident in the quality of standardized testing, why don’t you use it to evaluate entrepreneurs at FF?
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Without the SAT, how do underprivileged kids in rough situations who are good test-takers rise up? What happens to them? Do they go to worse colleges as a result?
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1) it’s obvious it’s going to be challenging for them to require it this year bc of the logistics of exams amid a pandemic so let them skip a year and study/compare the data 2) you should read about the history of the SAT and racial beliefs of its creator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Brigham …
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Also it seems like they spent a year modeling different approaches, with more or less reliance on the SAT. https://senate.universityofcalifornia.edu/_files/underreview/sttf-report.pdf …
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @eriktorenberg and
SAT/ACT is an industry. I’m a bit concerned about an organization with over a billion in revenue (the college board) a non-profit with some hefty exec salaries. About time it was given a second look.
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