Trying to learn here. So one side screams “Venezuela!” as a response to socialist left arguments, the other side yells “Denmark!” back but not really responding. Is there a good article from the left refuting the Venezuela argument & from the right refuting the Denmark one?
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Replying to @nabeel
How about... there are infinite varieties of the way the market and state can interact so we should evaluate things on a policy by policy basis?
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @nabeel
The first thing to remember is that America is almost completely wrong with its labeling of socialism. High tax, high service economies like Denmark are not socialist for the simple fact that they have thriving market economies.
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social conversation word poisoning - as soon as you interject certain words into a convo pre-disposed (acculturated???) brains start flashing red, ears shut down, mind shuts down, and in some cases drooling begins....
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Yep, this. But also capitalism is getting a bad rap too. Essentially America is just arguing over different flavours of capitalism. Which is great, because it works!
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Replying to @mr_james_c @sjs_sf and
There is only one flavor of capitalism and then various controls that sit on top of it.
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That's really not the case. Capitalism/Socialism is an argument about who controls the means of production. How you raise funds for govt (taxes) and what you spend it on is nothing to do with this *except* if those taxes are spent controlling the means of production.
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You can also have many different structures of private ownership of the means of production, you can have heavily centralized monopolistic private control, or much more small d democratic, decentralized private ownership, etc.
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @mr_james_c and
ah, sweet memories of falling asleep in the big comfy chairs in the G'TwnU library smoking lounges (2nd & 3rd flrs, probably gone) staring at Arlington's lights reflected in the Potomac trying to understand Schumpeter...
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