Is that $250B statewide? I was talking about SF demand only. I will say that https://www.sfcommunityhousingact.com/details seems to have at least engaged with basically reasonable numbers, but it takes 60 years to build 30k units. Sigh.
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Not trying to be snarky, this is a genuine question: has YIMBY addressed the math of this in a meaningful way? I know we talk a lot about how the numbers are huge and insurmountable, but I haven't seen a long term game plan either.
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Replying to @sashaperigo @xander76 and
Even if we built as much market rate housing as possible, studies have shown that market rates wouldn't come down to a point where'd they'd match today's below market rate prices for 50 years.
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Replying to @sashaperigo @xander76 and
Is there an argument NOT to upzone the city and build a lot more housing, both market rate and BMR? In all neighborhoods, especially wealthier ones.
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Replying to @jpoliticssf @peternocturnal and
the argument is not against building housing and never has been. It's about keeping existing affordable housing and its residents protected and leveraging the private market to build public alternatives, while building the democratic power of marginalized groups to have a say.
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Replying to @uhshanti @peternocturnal and
playing defense, redistribution, and deeply changing the structure of power over what gets built and where has IMO not been given its due by the build baby build crowd but without that we do not get the kind of housing we need. that's the long and short of it
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Replying to @uhshanti @peternocturnal and
Ok well, I’ve been here awhile, and I’ve seen many tenant activists come and go at this point. Unless they own, they generally stay for a couple years, become really good organizers and leaders for awhile and then they leave.
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Meanwhile regional property values have doubled every economic cycle since the 1980s.
and then being from the South Bay, I am biased to believe that whatever happens there foreshadows what happens to SF/East Bay in a couple years to a decade....
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @uhshanti and
So I’m like let’s do all of the above aggressively. Large affordable housing funding, changes to CH and large amounts of building. But every time we fight each other, those who own the land always win.
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @uhshanti and
i've been here 27 years, actually do this housing stuff for a living, studied it in grad and undergrad, and I'll say there are some other constants: people who claim "we should do it all" but always seem way more interested in delving into why we can't
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