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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Apr 2020
      Replying to @NPR

      This is, of course, utterly unethical human experimentation.😡

      40 replies 192 retweets 2,594 likes
    2. Vamsi Aribindi‏ @aribindi 11 Apr 2020
      Replying to @gorskon @NPR

      Dr. Gorski, I agree with the broader concerns about plaquenil, but this is really not experimentation nor is it unethical. Ironically, if he randomly chose who gets the drug and who doesn't THAT would be unethical human experimentation. But is described is standard off-label rx.

      10 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Apr 2020
      Replying to @aribindi @NPR

      He plans on publishing his results to add to the research on #COVID19. That’s experimentation and he should have gotten IRB approval.🙄🤦🏻‍♂️pic.twitter.com/B0vI08LTlc

      1 reply 4 retweets 62 likes
    4. Vamsi Aribindi‏ @aribindi 11 Apr 2020
      Replying to @gorskon @NPR

      IMO the line between tracking outcomes/quality improvement and research is not always as distinct as we would like. If a surgeon adopts a ligasure for thyroidectomies, tracks OR times and bleeds, and then decides to publish them, is that research that requires a prospective IRB?

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Nataniel Lester-Coll, MD‏Verified account @DrLesterColl 12 Apr 2020
      Replying to @aribindi @gorskon @NPR

      IRB member here. This is absolutely human subjects research and requires IRB approval.pic.twitter.com/7Izw841Zi0

      2 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
    6. Vamsi Aribindi‏ @aribindi 12 Apr 2020
      Replying to @DrLesterColl @gorskon @NPR

      https://irb.research.chop.edu/quality-improvement-vs-research … Other IRBs would seem to disagree with you. Yes, he would need approval for a retrospective review before he published the data. Most IRBs wouldn't require a prospective one.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Nataniel Lester-Coll, MD‏Verified account @DrLesterColl 12 Apr 2020
      Replying to @aribindi @gorskon @NPR

      Thank you for providing a link which very clearly deliniates the difference between QI and research. Giving a drug to human subjects for the purpose of “knowledge-seeking” intended to “answer a question or test a hypothesis" that "may put subjects at risk” is…research, not QI.pic.twitter.com/ohhv7FTs7D

      1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
    8. Vamsi Aribindi‏ @aribindi 12 Apr 2020
      Replying to @DrLesterColl @gorskon @NPR

      If you read one of the articles posted earlier, Dr. Robin Armstrong states he is doing what he would want done "for his mother or father". Which implies rather strongly he is giving the drug for the purpose of treating his patients, with answering a research question secondary.

      4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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    10. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 12 Apr 2020

      If anything, the data we have now look much LESS promising than the data we had in March. Based on the data we have I’m now 90% sure that #hydroxychloroquine doesn’t work against #COVID19.

      7 replies 12 retweets 43 likes
      Kevinj‏ @kevinjaixen 12 Apr 2020
      Replying to @gorskon @aribindi and

      So you will go on record stating that if you contract this virus, under no circumstances what so ever, that you are not to be given this drug.

      2:24 PM - 12 Apr 2020
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        2. Vamsi Aribindi‏ @aribindi 12 Apr 2020
          Replying to @kevinjaixen @gorskon and

          That was never Dr. Gorski's position. His point is that it shouldn't be given outside of a clinical trial. I am sure that if he were offered entry into such a trial (or a trial for remdesevir, or toclizumab) he would be amenable

          1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
        3. Kevin Ault‏Verified account @kevinault 12 Apr 2020
          Replying to @aribindi @kevinjaixen and

          and if you volunteer to be in a clinical trial, the protocol has been reviewed by a human subjects committee and has a data & safety monitor plan to protect you as a research subject.

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
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        2. NIH Llamas‏ @NIH_LLAMAS 12 Apr 2020

          After does not necessarily mean because of. This is very basic logic, and yet so many dopes can't understand it.

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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        1. Alison Palkhivala‏ @alisonpalk 12 Apr 2020
          Replying to @kevinjaixen @gorskon and

          That wins the internet for stupidest straw man, at least for today.

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        1. Craig Good: vaccinated and masked‏ @clgood 12 Apr 2020
          Replying to @kevinjaixen @gorskon and

          Hoist by his own double negative.

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