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Voices of VR Podcast host: Insatiably curious, XR oral historian, & aspiring philosopher. He/Him Listener-supported by Patreon at http://patreon.com/voicesofvr 

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    1. JesseSchell‏Verified account @jesseschell 17 Mar 2018

      Giving my #GDC18 talk on The Nature of Order in Game Narrative on Tuesday. Time to start writing it!

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    2. Kent Bye VoicesOfVR‏ @kentbye 17 Mar 2018
      Replying to @jesseschell

      Kent Bye VoicesOfVR Retweeted Kent Bye VoicesOfVR

      I've been contemplating if Campbell's monomyth is a Yang Archetypal Journey, & if there's a correlating Yin Archeypal Journey that's always in parallel & coincident. Or if that the yin journey is completely independent & we'll see it more if we define it.https://twitter.com/kentbye/status/971497929318875136 …

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      Kent Bye VoicesOfVR @kentbye
      Using hero vs heroine's journey can be problematic since we all have masculine & feminine aspects happening at the same time, and it's likely that every story has an outer yang and corresponding inner yin dimension. So hero vs heroine has problematic, gendered language baggage.
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    3. JesseSchell‏Verified account @jesseschell 17 Mar 2018
      Replying to @kentbye

      You ask a deep question. Whether the Hero’s Journey is inherently masculine is not obvious. If there is a yin version, I would start by finding examples from myth and literature. If there is an equivalent, maybe it is not a journey?

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    4. Kent Bye VoicesOfVR‏ @kentbye 17 Mar 2018
      Replying to @jesseschell

      I suspect that the yang elements of fire & air (active & mental/social presence) map to Campbell's monomyth better than the yin elements of water & earth (emotional & embodied presence). This yin journey is inner, esoteric, & more like meditation/yoga in cultivating presence.

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    5. Kent Bye VoicesOfVR‏ @kentbye 17 Mar 2018
      Replying to @kentbye @jesseschell

      Both the yin & yang are always happening at the same time, but Campbell's monomyth tends to emphasize more of the yang aspects. Are there complementary yin aspects that are hidden because we haven't labeled them? Has a patriarchal bias diminished the telling of yin stories?

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    6. Kent Bye VoicesOfVR‏ @kentbye 17 Mar 2018
      Replying to @kentbye @jesseschell

      I try to avoid gender as yin/yang is gender agnostic & essentializing gender is problematic since films like Moonlight seemed to emphasize vulnerability, surrender, & empathetic connection. This essay lists a number of examples that could be yin stories. http://www.vqronline.org/essays-articles/2018/03/male-glance …

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    7. Kent Bye VoicesOfVR‏ @kentbye 17 Mar 2018
      Replying to @kentbye @jesseschell

      .@maya_z00's takes a feminist perspective on Campbell's monomyth. She also tries to lay out and define the underlying patternshttps://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8270528 …

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      Kent Bye VoicesOfVR‏ @kentbye 17 Mar 2018
      Replying to @kentbye @jesseschell @maya_z00

      I suspect that the yin archetypal journey is non-linear, cyclical, embodied, sensory, centered in your own experience, environmental, nurturing, receptive, cooperative, community-driven, worldbuilding, depth psychological, connective, transcendent, esoteric, & alchemical

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        2. Maya zuckerman‏ @maya_z00 17 Mar 2018
          Replying to @kentbye @jesseschell

          I actually more and more believe that we need to go beyond these dualistic memes as they lead to a 0=game - I'm all for the none0=game #collectivejourney

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        3. Kent Bye VoicesOfVR‏ @kentbye 17 Mar 2018
          Replying to @maya_z00 @jesseschell

          I agree we need to get to a sythesis, but I'd argue you can't skip from the thesis to synthesis in the absence of clearly defining the antithesis. Archetypal yin polarity stories are being explored with VR/AR/AI. Let's have it fully articulated & expressed before sythnesizing it.

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