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Science reporter at the New York Times. Pluto, dinosaurs, NASA, viral math & more...

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    1. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Jun 5

      Kenneth Chang Retweeted Gary Branigan

      Point to any other campaign ad from any politician from any party that similarly violated NASA ad regulations. I cannot recall any. NASA has generally been a non-partisan issue (with the exception of earth science).https://twitter.com/OkieBranigan/status/1268919592799404032 …

      Kenneth Chang added,

      Gary Branigan @OkieBranigan
      Replying to @kchangnyt @NYTScience
      No different than every other politician did or does. Not at all. They all claim they are responsible for anything the people see as praiseworthy when it is usually “in spite of “ their actions. Your party is as guilty as the other party.
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    2. yg1968‏ @yag1968 Jun 5
      Replying to @kchangnyt

      Are you sure that it breaks the regulations? The regulations apply to commercial activities. Are political activities, commercial activities? It's possible that the regulations apply to all forms of ads but it's not clear to me. Did you ever receive a response from NASA on this?

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    3. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Jun 5
      Replying to @yag1968

      As I say in the article, I did not receive a response from NASA. Still haven't. Hard to believe that they would have a carve-out for political ads. The policy specifies what is acceptable usage and political ads is not on that list.

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    4. yg1968‏ @yag1968 Jun 5
      Replying to @kchangnyt

      NASA has rules for non-commercial uses (I am not saying that it is those rules that necessarily apply; I am honestly not sure which rules apply, I find the guidelines unclear):https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/guidelines/index.html …

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    5. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Jun 5
      Replying to @yag1968

      Under the section for non-commercial use, this sentence is key: "NASA content used in a factual manner that does not imply endorsement may be used without needing explicit permission." I don't how one could contort that a political ad does not imply endorsement.

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    6. yg1968‏ @yag1968 Jun 5
      Replying to @kchangnyt

      It is used in a factual manner, it's videos of the launch. If the astronauts were wearing MAGA hats or a Trump 2020 sign, it would obviously be an endorsement. I am not as certain as you are that showing videos of the launch is an endorsement. Although when in doubt, ask NASA.

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    7. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Jun 5
      Replying to @yag1968

      If this doesn't imply endorsement, then really nothing does. NASA doesn't endorse. It doesn't want the agency to be used in endorsements. Smart policy. This is not a newspaper article or textbook or school project — examples of non-commercial non-endorsement uses cited.

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    8. yg1968‏ @yag1968 Jun 5
      Replying to @kchangnyt

      I gave you examples of obvious endorsements. Political ads have used video news footage from news networks before. You are allowed to show real events in an ad. It's a complicated legal issue which involves fair use among other things:https://www.rtdna.org/article/can_they_do_that_when_political_campaigns_use_news_footage …

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      Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Jun 5
      Replying to @yag1968

      news footage != NASA footage. I think most people don't want parts of the federal government — the military, the FBI, the EPA, the NIH, NASA — endorsing candidates or parties. NASA's policy clearly wants to stay clear of taking sides or being seen in that manner.

      10:10 AM - 5 Jun 2020
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        2. yg1968‏ @yag1968 Jun 5
          Replying to @kchangnyt

          Fair use applies to everyone including NASA TV. NASA isn't taking sides, their footage is being used in an add by someone else. If the add was posted on NASA's youtube channel, that would be an issue because of the Hatch Act. But that's a different issue.

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        3. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Jun 5
          Replying to @yag1968

          I'm not sure of the precise legal recourse that NASA would have, but basically you're saying it doesn't matter what NASA says its policies are, because fair use.

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