the basic fallacy is to claim that because the people/topics/methods have changed a lot over the last 25 years, therefore whatever was being done 25 years ago was insignificant
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Labourie did not say the previous work was insignificant. Sorry if I did not portray his words clearly enough, but he did not say that, full stop.
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insignificant in the fairly literal sense of "most ... did not think much" of it, which was the line from the article. even with 280 characters one resorts to shorthands like this
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Ok, blame me. He meant the hierarchy of the “difficulty” or prestige of the different areas, e.g. theoretical particle physicists think they do the most pure physics, followed by condensed matter, etc. That doesn’t imply solid state physics (and all the tech) is insignificant.
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And thus for many of the top people in the field, these other areas are not worth their personal time and attention. Many theoretical physicists have this view even though the March APS meeting is huge.
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I don't think mathematicians generally thought what Kolmogorov, Levy, Feller, Tukey, etc. were doing was not difficult or worth attention relative to work in other fields, at least judging by their recognitions, involvement in organisations, etc.
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Look at how Probability is presented at the Princeton Bicentennial conference on the Problems of Mathematics in 1946, which was an attempt to assemble the most important and exciting current fields at the time https://www.ams.org/publicoutreach/math-history/hmath2-princeton-2.pdf …
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this conference was arguably the first major midcentury "state of the discipline" meeting, with big names from around the world, and probability theory (as distinct from stats and applications) was right there in the mix
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Quickly read through it, reinforces my view that Labourie was making a valid point even if I did not convey it completely. There’s nothing hinting at people thinking about using probability to prove a theorem about prime numbers. That’s the sea change he was trying to describe.
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if that very specific "sea change" was the point of that part of the article, then you both did a really poor job representing it. Which is not to blame you or Labourie, but to reiterate the value of reaching out to a historian before you run with such claims.
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Point taken. There are however restrictions on how much reporting one is allowed to do before the Abel laureates are informed and the announcement is public.
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Fair enough. So you focus on the aspects of the story where you are able to reach sources who know what they're talking about, and maybe save the historical context for a followup piece if you can't do it justice in the initial write-up.
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Side question: how can I vet whether someone knows what they are talking about if I don‘t know the subject matter? I mean, that‘s literally what journalists do, so it sound stupid as a question, but is sincere. do we go by institutional or biographical indicators?
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