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Science reporter at the New York Times. Pluto, dinosaurs, NASA, viral math & more...

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    1. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Mar 20
      Replying to @PeterMonnerjahn @MBarany

      No problem with receiving criticism but just saying everything wrong without citing anything in particular isn't helpful.

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    2. Peter Monnerjahn‏ @PeterMonnerjahn Mar 20
      Replying to @kchangnyt @MBarany

      Oh, but of course @MBarany didn’t say anything remotely like “everything wrong”. He specifically pointed to the bit touching on the history of probability. And anyone who is actually interested in criticism wld simply ask for clarification—instead of knee-jerk deflection.

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    3. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Mar 20
      Replying to @PeterMonnerjahn @MBarany

      I wrote "Not sure what you're complaining about. Furstenberg's and Margulis's work obviously is not probability theory." How is that not asking for clarification?

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    4. Peter Monnerjahn‏ @PeterMonnerjahn Mar 20
      Replying to @kchangnyt @MBarany

      You mean apart from the fact that what you wrote was not even formally a question (ie a way of “not asking”)? Maybe the first sentence’s dismissive phrasing? Or perhaps the pejorative word choice (“complaining”)? 🤔

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    5. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Mar 20
      Replying to @PeterMonnerjahn @MBarany

      How is that more dismissive than "love it when the nytimes journalist just runs with the nonsense about 20th century history spouted by the mathematicians he interviews"? How is the original complaint useful?

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    6. Peter Monnerjahn‏ @PeterMonnerjahn Mar 20
      Replying to @kchangnyt @MBarany

      Funny how the goalposts just shifted from “Sure I asked for clarification” (which you cleverly avoided even saying explicitly) to “What I said was at worst as dismissive as what the other guy said”. That’s really just a Tone Troll, deflecting from the actual criticism.

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    7. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Mar 20
      Replying to @PeterMonnerjahn @MBarany

      I don't think "Not sure what you're complaining about" is dismissive. It certainly invites clarification. What did you want me to say? "Thank you for calling my article nonsense. Could you expand on that?"

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    8. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Mar 20
      Replying to @kchangnyt @PeterMonnerjahn @MBarany

      If someone uses words like nonsense, pejorative, bullshit, troll, knee-jerk deflection, that person is not really trying to offer constructive criticism. @mbararny's 1st tweet was phrased as a complaint; his subsequent tweets were reasonable and informative. Yours not so much.

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    9. Peter Monnerjahn‏ @PeterMonnerjahn Mar 20
      Replying to @kchangnyt @MBarany

      In my experience, that kind of thing is only ever said by ppl who only piously profess to be interested in criticism but evade any serious manifestation of it. But I’m game. Wld you mind sharing arguments & pertinent facts for the (so far: baseless) claim in your first sentence?

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    10. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Mar 20
      Replying to @PeterMonnerjahn @MBarany

      What constructive criticism are you offering? My definition of constructive criticism is sentences like, "If I were you, here's what I would have said." Not "Ah, great. The usual bullshit deflection…"

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      Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt Mar 20
      Replying to @kchangnyt @PeterMonnerjahn @MBarany

      Fine if you want to complain that my first response to his first testy tweet was a bit testy, but I learned a few things in his non-testy follow-up tweets. I still think Labourie was making a valid point and perhaps I could have done a better job of explaining that.

      9:42 AM - 20 Mar 2020
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