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    1. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @nyttypos @NYTScience

      I don't know who made the 1713 observation, so I was hedging a bit.

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    2. Typos of the New York Times‏ @nyttypos 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @kchangnyt @NYTScience

      I guess some affiliation may be required for "successor." If their observation didn't overlap, you could just say that he observed it until his death in 1712, and someone else observed it in 1713.

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    3. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @nyttypos @NYTScience

      Pretty soon, you're back to "Cassini and others observed the spot until 1713."

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    4. Typos of the New York Times‏ @nyttypos 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @kchangnyt @NYTScience

      One way to defeat the implication (I think it's more than that) that Cassini observed through 1713 would be the addition of "collectively."

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    5. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @nyttypos @NYTScience

      Ya know, the parenthetical about him dying in 1712 does that too.

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    6. Typos of the New York Times‏ @nyttypos 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @kchangnyt @NYTScience

      That just retracts the literal statement that he observed through 1713, like my "Cassini and his friends stayed at the party until midnight (Cassini went home at 8 and promptly died)" example.

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    7. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @nyttypos @NYTScience

      In this context, I think it's clear that the "others" were not huddled around Cassini and his telescope in 1665 and during every other observation. Thus, it's not essential that Cassini be present at every one, either. English isn't always precise.

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    8. Typos of the New York Times‏ @nyttypos 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @kchangnyt @NYTScience

      allows Bob and Tim to miss Lakers games, but it's false if Bob actually left the Lakers in 2003 or died. (2/2)

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    9. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @nyttypos @NYTScience

      If Cassini is not required to be at all observations, why is he required to be at the last one? If he hadn’t died, would this still bother you? He’s sleeping! Resting! Stunned!

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    10. Typos of the New York Times‏ @nyttypos 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @kchangnyt @NYTScience

      Well, suppose that I said "Cassini and his wife ran in the Boston Marathon until 2018." That's not inconsistent with missing a marathon in 2006, but if Cassini *stopped* running marathons in 2008 or even 2017 it wouldn't be true.

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      Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt 26 Nov 2019
      Replying to @nyttypos @NYTScience

      “Cassini and others broke time records in the Boston Marathon each year until 1983. (Cassini retired in 1982.)”

      5:07 PM - 26 Nov 2019
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        2. Typos of the New York Times‏ @nyttypos 26 Nov 2019
          Replying to @kchangnyt @NYTScience

          I think that's self-contradictory. My basic position is that "and others" does not in any way change the meaning of the sentence as to Cassini, though "successor" would imply a substitution.

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        3. Kenneth Chang‏ @kchangnyt 26 Nov 2019
          Replying to @nyttypos @NYTScience

          How is that self-contradictory? It is just saying runners including Cassini broke the record for many years in a row.

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