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    Kat Rosenfield‏Verified account @katrosenfield 10 Nov 2018

    Kat Rosenfield Retweeted Zhana Vrangalova PhD

    1. Somewhat related to my recent Tablet piece: affirmative consent standards really don't reflect the way most people have sex. 2. Lest you think this only affects women, may I please direct your attention to the guy who MADE HIMSELF VOMIT BECAUSE IT WAS EASIER THAN SAYING NOhttps://twitter.com/DrZhana/status/1061328467764097025 …

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    Zhana Vrangalova PhD @DrZhana
    In the real word, initiating and refusing sex happens in lots of different ways. We have to stop telling folks that the only way to negotiate enthusiastic consent is through verbal communication. #ssss2018 pic.twitter.com/WY9B3Xerjy
    11:04 am - 10 Nov 2018
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    8 replies . 22 retweets 81 likes
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      2. Cathy Reisenwitz‏Verified account @CathyReisenwitz 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @katrosenfield

        Isn’t this just evidence that verbal enthusiastic consent should be the cultural standard? Beats vomiting I think.

        2 replies . 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Kat Rosenfield‏Verified account @katrosenfield 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @CathyReisenwitz

        How so? Establishing a cultural standard that most people evidently find cumbersome and unnatural seems like a recipe for failure

        1 reply . 0 retweets 8 likes
      4. Kat Rosenfield‏Verified account @katrosenfield 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @katrosenfield @CathyReisenwitz

        I think the takeaway here is that most people find ways to communicate desire (or lack thereof) when they wish to; in all these cases, even the vomit one, the desired outcome was in fact achieved

        1 reply . 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Cathy Reisenwitz‏Verified account @CathyReisenwitz 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @katrosenfield

        Is all cultural change a lost cause?

        1 reply . 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Kat Rosenfield‏Verified account @katrosenfield 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @CathyReisenwitz

        Of course not! It's a much harder sell, though, if nobody likes or wants to use the new standard being proposed

        0 replies . 0 retweets 10 likes
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      2. Manzell B‏ @ManzellBeezy 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @katrosenfield

        I only lost my virginity because this girl would come over to my place and ask to have sex and cry when I said no... finally after the 4th or 5th time I was like FINE let's go. I have conflicted feelings about it, but at the same time, *it literally was easier than saying no*

        2 replies . 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Kat Rosenfield‏Verified account @katrosenfield 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @ManzellBeezy

        Ugh, that sounds unpleasant, I'm sorry. I've heard enough of these stories that they no longer surprise me, exactly, but ☹️☹️☹️

        1 reply . 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Manzell B‏ @ManzellBeezy 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @katrosenfield

        I think that story isn't especially uncommon... and that ultimately it's not very bad? It makes me bristle at this standard that some folks seem to have in which we're owed a life free of bad luck or conflict. Like, that was a pretty low stakes way to learn a lesson and i'm /

        1 reply . 1 retweet 9 likes
      5. Manzell B‏ @ManzellBeezy 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @ManzellBeezy @katrosenfield

        I'm glad I learned it at 18 instead of later on when the stakes may have been higher.

        1 reply . 0 retweets 3 likes
      6. Kat Rosenfield‏Verified account @katrosenfield 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @ManzellBeezy

        That's a healthy outlook! I tend to agree, and think it would probably be good if more people stopped viewing social pressure or conflict surrounding sex as inherently different and more damaging than other scenarios; humans are more resilient than we give ourselves credit for

        2 replies . 0 retweets 17 likes
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      2. Laura, BRD‏ @LiglyCnsrvatari 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @katrosenfield

        Please don't so direct my attention... I'd prefer it directed to that cute dog of yours.

        1 reply . 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Kat Rosenfield‏Verified account @katrosenfield 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @LiglyCnsrvatari

        Happy to oblige 😊pic.twitter.com/9yKFkhJ7sD

        0 replies . 0 retweets 0 likes
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      1. Brendan‏ @ninthhostage 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @katrosenfield

        Men saying no to sexually agressive women is more difficult than I think many women think it is. There's an assumption from (some) women that all men always want to have sex and they'll have sex with almost anyone Trying to turn them down frequently goes south v quickly

        0 replies . 0 retweets 7 likes
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      2. Stephan‏ @Sevens_2 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @katrosenfield

        1. Note how @DrZhana still sticks to the "enthusiastic" part; have a pleonasm, and you can eat the affirmative. 2. Does making oneself throw up really mean no, though.

        2 replies . 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Zhana Vrangalova PhD‏ @DrZhana 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @Sevens_2 @katrosenfield

        Don’t understand what you’re criticizing here?

        1 reply . 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Stephan‏ @Sevens_2 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @DrZhana @katrosenfield

        #2 wasn't serious. Re #1, when you leave the requirement of "enthusiasm" in place you get pretty much the same results as with "affirmation." Not only will you ban most of responsive desire, but also playing hard to get, using sex to negotiate, to defuse, to process emotions etc.

        1 reply . 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Stephan‏ @Sevens_2 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @Sevens_2 @DrZhana @katrosenfield

        Further, verifying "enthusiasm" will effectively amount to verbal consent, particularly in Title IX settings, more so under preponderance. All this is exacerbated by ambivalence, the presumption of power imbalances and false consciousness/preferences.

        1 reply . 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Stephan‏ @Sevens_2 10 Nov 2018
        Replying to @Sevens_2 @DrZhana @katrosenfield

        (Theorists fail to account for true inner conflict as well. Rather, they assume conflict is the result of external influence, eg patriarchy. This assumption of natural personal and intertemporal unity makes little sense.) Then consider ambiguity.http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/the-delicate-dilemma-of-defining-rape/ …

        0 replies . 0 retweets 3 likes
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      1. Steve Salerno‏ @iwrotesham 11 Nov 2018
        Replying to @katrosenfield @kittypurrzog

        And yet as you know they're being institutionalized in formal college protocols. And look, even, at Google's new rule that if you ask a woman out and she says she's busy, you may not ask again. Otherwise harassment.

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