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Researching the social implications of AI. Co-founder @AINowInstitute at NYU | Principal Researcher MSR-NYC | Distinguished Research Professor NYU |

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    Kate Crawford‏Verified account @katecrawford 6 Aug 2018

    Stunning: new rigorous evidence shows that wellness programs have NO significant impact. Apart from this: they massively increase the surveillance of workers, which we show here. @iajunwa @Lawgeek https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/06/upshot/employer-wellness-programs-randomized-trials.html …pic.twitter.com/n92TGoSiOX

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      2. Emma Blackman‏ @EmmaBlackman42 7 Aug 2018
        Replying to @katecrawford @HazelKLarkin and

        As someone with a long term health condition company 'wellness' initiatives have been really unhelpful, incredibly intrusive & a stressful overhead. /1

        1 reply 2 retweets 14 likes
      3. Emma Blackman‏ @EmmaBlackman42 7 Aug 2018
        Replying to @EmmaBlackman42 @katecrawford and

        And since the people who run these programs are not doctors, and certainly not specialists in my condition, they frequently recommend things that are counter-productive. /2

        1 reply 2 retweets 11 likes
      4. Emma Blackman‏ @EmmaBlackman42 7 Aug 2018
        Replying to @EmmaBlackman42 @katecrawford and

        I had one bizarre conversation where I had to reject multiple interventions to the point where the wellness person said: but we just want you to be well again! /3

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      5. Emma Blackman‏ @EmmaBlackman42 7 Aug 2018
        Replying to @EmmaBlackman42 @katecrawford and

        They seemed to be unable to understand that my condition is permanent. I would *love* to be 'well again', but it's just not possible. /4

        1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
      6. Emma Blackman‏ @EmmaBlackman42 7 Aug 2018
        Replying to @EmmaBlackman42 @katecrawford and

        In another company I had to have regular phone calls with the wellness team, discussing my 'progress', which meant repeated discussions about my medical condition with unqualified people who were not part of my medical team /5

        1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
      7. Emma Blackman‏ @EmmaBlackman42 7 Aug 2018
        Replying to @EmmaBlackman42 @katecrawford and

        Something I found very stressful and a huge breach of my privacy. /6

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      8. Emma Blackman‏ @EmmaBlackman42 7 Aug 2018
        Replying to @EmmaBlackman42 @katecrawford and

        One project issued everyone with Fitbits, and we were all expected to sign up to a team page where we could all see each others' stats. /7

        4 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
      9. Emma Blackman‏ @EmmaBlackman42 7 Aug 2018
        Replying to @EmmaBlackman42 @katecrawford and

        Since my condition includes fatigue attacks there are days when I barely move. I do not want that broadcast to the dozens of people that I worked with. It's none of their business! /8

        1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
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      2. Dr. Babs‏ @canapp98 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @katecrawford @UpshotNYT and

        Let me 1st preface w/ forgive my naivety, but I’m very curious about this topic & this tweet. Is the consensus here to 86 these programs all together or are you a proponent of specific changes? I can see the benefits of a well workforce - how can we best elicit +behavior changes?

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Grace Krause  🍞 🌹 🍞 🌹‏ @TheGraceK 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @canapp98 @katecrawford and

        The main problem with these programs is that they focus on individuals needing to change behavior when it is arguably working conditions that are making people sick. So these programs become really coercive and gaslighting by putting blame on individuals

        1 reply 1 retweet 54 likes
      4. Dr. Babs‏ @canapp98 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @TheGraceK @katecrawford and

        1/ Appreciate the response. As an ergonomist I can definitely attest to working conditions being a main factor, but I can also attest to the correlation of a person’s wellbeing being a significant contributor to a person’s severity risk. Reality is even with a focus on working...

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Dr. Babs‏ @canapp98 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @canapp98 @TheGraceK and

        2/ condition improvements, a person’s physical condition still has an impact (even with “no/low” risk tasks). My question was what can we do to address that factor too. If these programs are not effective what specific changes can we focus on to help improve this risk factor?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Grace Krause  🍞 🌹 🍞 🌹‏ @TheGraceK 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @canapp98 @katecrawford and

        I get where you're coming from. It's also worth noting that even while we strive for systemic change we need to take care of ourselves in the here and now. But the big point is that whatever relief programs can give immediately, they will not fix the harms caused through work.

        1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
      7. Grace Krause  🍞 🌹 🍞 🌹‏ @TheGraceK 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @TheGraceK @canapp98 and

        For that we need to unionise and collectively bargain for better working conditions.

        1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
      8. Dr. Babs‏ @canapp98 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @TheGraceK @katecrawford and

        Gotcha. Trust me, my entire profession is about improving working conditions!

        0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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      2. Adrian 'S&L' Wapcaplet‏ @AdrianWapcapIet 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @katecrawford @emptywheel and

        I've always avoided my workplace wellness program specifically because I understood it was a way for my employer and insurance carrier to gather health-related information they couldn't get directly from my doctor due to privacy laws.

        1 reply 6 retweets 36 likes
      3. Angelika 🌹 🍞‏ @mwochata 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @AdrianWapcapIet @katecrawford and

        100% what it is. HIPAA really needs an update to block this shit.

        0 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. David Golumbia‏ @dgolumbia 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @katecrawford @iajunwa @Lawgeek

        i've always said that "wellness program" is just another word for "worker surveillance" (&/or one of the most literal & deliberate implementations of bio-politics imaginable)

        2 replies 4 retweets 18 likes
      3. David Golumbia‏ @dgolumbia 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @dgolumbia @katecrawford and

        & somehow had not read the marvelous piece by you 3 on this topic ("Limitless Worker Surveillance") in that picture. available for download here for others interested: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2746211 …

        0 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Dr. Andrea L. Guzman, PhD‏ @TeachGuz 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @katecrawford @iajunwa @Lawgeek

        We have to pay an added cost for our health insurance for not participating in the hubs' "voluntary" wellness program. It is more than $1,000 each year. Worth every penny, but, while we can afford it, others cannot.

        3 replies 1 retweet 25 likes
      3. Grace Krause  🍞 🌹 🍞 🌹‏ @TheGraceK 6 Aug 2018
        Replying to @TeachGuz @katecrawford and

        God that's really dystopian isn't it.

        0 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      4. End of conversation

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