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unemployed statistician, fanperson, knitter. #SJSharks fan. More cats than sense.

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    1. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek May 22
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      Here's something I've been studying on here for a bit. A lot of men, seem to have been conditioned to think that telling someone that you disagree is the same as asking them a question. Like the way they learn to engage is by *creating a conflict*.

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    2. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek May 22
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      I don't think this is a small thing. In fact, I think it is the source of a lot of the unintentional frustration that men cause on here. (I'm only talking about those who actually "mean well".)

      8 replies 179 retweets 2,876 likes
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    3. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek May 22
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      I have had this exchange numerous times. It goes something like this. Them: I disagree. | I've had a different experience. Me: I don't care. | What's your point? Them: Geez, I was just trying to learn. Why are you attacking me?!

      19 replies 344 retweets 3,351 likes
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    4. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek May 22
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      It has been helpful for me to see this as unintentional conditioning separate from intent. At least for some men (including myself). Ever since this occurred to me, I've noticed how even when men intend to ask "sincere" questions, it often comes in the form of a challenge.

      12 replies 328 retweets 3,531 likes
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    5. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek May 22
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      This has a bunch of negative effects. It's easily misunderstood as a bad faith challenge rather than an attempt to engage. There are a lot of bad faith challenges out there and they sound exactly the same. In fact those bad actors always hide behind "good intent".

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    6. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek May 22
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      Engaging in the form of a challenge also puts all of the burden on the receiver to unpack what you mean to ask and what kind of response would be appropriate. You are implicitly asking for a tremendous amount of grace when you ask someone to navigate this unexpectedly.

      12 replies 408 retweets 3,733 likes
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    7. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek May 22
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      I wanna be clear that even though we can give the benefit of the doubt in seeing this as a an unintentional learned behavior, that doesn't the people who do this are off the hook. We still need to do better. We can learn to do better.

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    8. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek May 22
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      Marco Rogers Retweeted Wes Akers

      I'm glad this thread is resonating with so many people. I wanna spend a little time on this question, which I've gotten a number of times today. Essentially what's "the right way" to disagree? Be warned that a lot of this is gonna feel unsatisfying.https://twitter.com/wakers01/status/1131365278405812226?s=19 …

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      Wes Akers @WesleyWaffles
      Replying to @polotek
      How do you disagree with somebody when you legit “don’t agree?” Do you think it’s as simple as, “I disagree because [rationale]?” I guess I’m asking if you think disagreeing with an actual argument is sufficient to make it good faith? Seems like it, but what’s your experience?
      5 replies 150 retweets 1,508 likes
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    9. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek May 22
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      The first question a lot of us need to ask is "why does this person need to hear that I disagree?" Twitter is still largely a uni-directional medium. People post a tweet because they want to express themselves. Not because they're asking each individual if they agree or disagree.

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    10. Josh Justice‏ @CodingItWrong May 23
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      Replying to @polotek @sarahmei

      An interesting takeaway I might have is, instead of replying, quote-tweeting to express my own different view. But many folks have been down on quote-tweeting as talking past each other instead of to each other. Interesting to think about the difference these make 🤔

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      Kalany‏ @kalanyy May 23
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      Replying to @CodingItWrong @polotek @sarahmei

      To me, the difference is about whether the QT is really about you or them. A thread about your own thoughts, aimed your followers, that is respectful to the OP? Probably okay. A way of replying while also putting them on blast to your followers & hiding from theirs? Not good.

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