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PhD candidate in Social, Personality, & Health Psych @Carleton_U studying self-regulation & goal pursuit; Open science advocate; Incoming postdoc @UTSC

Ottawa, Ontario
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    Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

    So, a few months ago I submitted my first paper with open data. A couple of weeks ago, the paper got rejected because of the data I shared. Let me tell you, this experience has been quite a rollercoaster ride. Thread 1/n

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      2. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        When preparing the data, I scrutinized the hell out of the files. I wanted to make sure the variable names made sense to anyone who stumbled across the data, I quadruple checked all of the analyses. I posted the r script. Surely, there was nothing that I missed, right? 2/n

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      3. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        Turns out, NO. I get the unexpected editors decision that my paper was flat out rejected. I was quite confused because this paper is actually pretty important, and I thought for sure this journal would find it interesting. I was upset, so I put it aside for a day. 3/n

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      4. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        I finally get to the review, and the only pertinent comment was that the reviewer re-ran the analyses and even did a factor analysis on the Big 5 scale (consc was a primary IV). The paper was rejected because this reviewer had a “hunch” that the scale was incorrectly coded. 4/n

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      5. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        I was furious. How could the scale be wrongly coded? I checked everything numerous times! There was no chance in hell. So once again, I set it aside to work on other projects for a week while I cooled off. 5/n

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      6. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        On some downtime here in Croatia, I figured I would start dabbling into these analyses again. I check the code and everything was correct! I start drafting my response to the editor protesting the rejection. How could my paper be rejected on a “hunch” that was wrong? 6/n

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      7. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        Im swearing up and down that I will never share my data again because how could something like this happen. But before I send my draft to my supervisor, I had an inkling to look at the qualtrics survey just to make sure I was 100% right. Turns out, I was not. 7/n

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      8. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        Things look fine initially, but apparently, the RA who put together the survey together entered 10 of 44 items of the BFI out of order. And the reviewers “hunch” was indeed correct...the items were coded correctly, they just weren’t entered correctly. 8/n

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      9. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        I checked (almost) everything and was so sure that I was right. I was also about 5 seconds away from changing my position on open science. But I am SO glad that I took the time to step away from the project to look at things more clearly. 9/n

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      10. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        Most importantly, I am SO glad that I shared my data because this mistake NEVER would have been caught otherwise. I’m quite “hover-ish” when it comes to my RAs, but never would I have thought to double check something as simple as correctly entering a survey 10/n

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      11. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        Especially because we have a bank of questionnaires that are simply copied and pasted into surveys (this RA didn’t do that for some reason). 11/n

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      12. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        Fortunately, I think this error will actually make my paper a lot stronger. And as upset that I am about the 3 months of review that are now lost, I am happy to know that you didn’t publish a misleading paper. And from now on, I will always share my data. /end.

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      13. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018

        Bonus advice to anyone who may fall into the trap I did: the time I spent preparing my data to share made me over confident, more so than usual, I’d say. Do yourself a favour and always keep an open mind that you may be wrong. It will save a lot of headache in th long run.

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      2. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 23 Jul 2018

        The support on this thread is amazing & very encouraging. I would like to challenge anyone who has liked, re-tweeted, and/or commented on this thread to give open science a shot. Whether it's trying a pre-reg, sharing materials or data. Let's work together to make science better.

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      3. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 23 Jul 2018

        Kaitlyn Werner Retweeted PsyArXiv-bot

        Here are some resources for anyone interested: Orgs: @OSFramework @improvingpsych @PsiChiHonor @PsySciAcc @open_con @UCBITSS Intro paper: https://twitter.com/PsyArXivBot/status/1019821446531600384 … @lakens coursera course: http://www.coursera.org/learn/statistical-inferences …

        Kaitlyn Werner added,

        PsyArXiv-bot @PsyArXivBot
        Writing Empirical Articles: Transparency, Reproducibility, Clarity, and Memorability http://osf.io/c97za/ 
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      2. JK Flake  📈 📏‏ @JkayFlake 22 Jul 2018
        Replying to @kaitlynmwerner

        You're a heropic.twitter.com/PkRK3B4j0w

        1 reply 1 retweet 113 likes
      3. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018
        Replying to @JkayFlake

        Nah. The hero is the reviewer who actually took the time to check the data!

        3 replies 4 retweets 272 likes
      4. Kaitlyn Werner‏ @kaitlynmwerner 22 Jul 2018
        Replying to @kaitlynmwerner @JkayFlake

        I should also say, the reviewer was actually quite encouraging and empathetic given the situation. They could have easily been a jerk or said nothing, but they really went above and beyond!

        2 replies 1 retweet 188 likes
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      2. Eileen Clancy‏ @clancynewyork 22 Jul 2018
        Replying to @kaitlynmwerner

        This is great! As someone who worked for decades putting info into databases & later trying to retrieve it & taught others how to do it, I've learned there are ALWAYS errors in data entry. To avoid problems w/final result, assume errors & build checks into the process & workflow.

        4 replies 10 retweets 99 likes
      3. Charlie Seto‏ @ctseto 22 Jul 2018
        Replying to @clancynewyork @kaitlynmwerner

        The data entry errors are the easiest to make, the hardest to find, and the most exhaustive to prove their absence by.

        1 reply 1 retweet 44 likes
      4. Eileen Clancy‏ @clancynewyork 22 Jul 2018
        Replying to @ctseto @kaitlynmwerner

        Only way I know to guard against errors–assuming access to people who are entering data, or data itself immediately after entered–is constant spot checks. Obvs. not great for huge amounts of data & metadata. For large am'ts you should checking for patterns & unexplained outliers.

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