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    Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

    This is how a convicted rapist was portrayed by @washingtonpost. Include his swimming creds, avoid the word "rape"pic.twitter.com/sJj11s0hFE

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      1. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        Since people are using it to derail, I need to acknowledge this. None of the convictions were for "rape" as far as the wording of the crime,

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      3. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        But was found guilty on three felonies, one of which does include the word rape and two of which are the definition of rape:

        8 retweets 37 likes
      4. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated or unconscious person, sexual penetration of an intoxicated person,

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      6. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        and sexual penetration of an unconscious person. Again, the last two of which are RAPE.

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      8. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        So no, I disagree that "convicted rapist" is inaccurate. And men trying to make that point in this thread are derailing rape apologists.

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      10. Andy Ass ‏@AndrewBraddock Jun 6 Seattle, WA

        @justkelly_ok b/c half of your argument takes issue with the semantics of the headline, people aren't apologists for explaining its accuracy

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      11. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        In several of the other headlines I posted, the word "rape" was used despite no charges having been brought. @AndrewBraddock

        2 retweets 12 likes
      12. Andy Ass ‏@AndrewBraddock Jun 6 Seattle, WA

        @justkelly_ok So other publications breaking AP style means that the @washingtonpost should use stronger rhetoric?

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      1. Brian Biscieglia ‏@BrianBiscieglia Jun 6

        @justkelly_ok @idlediletante @washingtonpost in most jurisdictions now, sexual assault is rape. Rape isn't really used in the statute.

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      2. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        @BrianBiscieglia What's your point? I posted other examples where WaPo used the word "rape" in headlines.

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      3. Brian Biscieglia ‏@BrianBiscieglia Jun 6

        @justkelly_ok my point is saying the person sexually assaulted someone is the same as saying they raped someone.

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      4. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        @BrianBiscieglia It might be factually the same in certain jurisdictions, but the rhetoric is not the same. The word "rape" has more weight.

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      5. Brian Biscieglia ‏@BrianBiscieglia Jun 6

        @justkelly_ok it might have more weight, but it doesn't have much legal meaning anymore.

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      6. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        @BrianBiscieglia You are derailing. Begone from my mentions.

        0 retweets 27 likes
      7. Brian Biscieglia ‏@BrianBiscieglia Jun 6

        @justkelly_ok wow. Whatever.

        0 retweets 2 likes
      8. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        @BrianBiscieglia The grown-ups are talking about rhetoric and portrayal of rapists in the media. Legal equivalence isn't relevant to this.

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      1. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 6

        For contrast, here's @washingtonpost coverage of other rapes. All three headlines use the word, use mugshots.pic.twitter.com/AqBy8wgsNH

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      3. Curtis LayCraft ‏@LayCraft Jun 9 Victoria, British Columbia

        @justkelly_ok @washingtonpost Poindexter systemically raped dozens of people. SYSTEMIC RAPE. Yet you suggest it is because of racial bias?

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      4. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 9

        @LayCraft I literally provided five other examples. Nice cherry-picking!

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      5. Curtis LayCraft ‏@LayCraft Jun 9 Victoria, British Columbia

        @justkelly_ok The evidence you used to support your point was partially misleading. That is on you not me.

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      6. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 9

        @LayCraft LOL

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      7. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 9

        @LayCraft P.S. "Systemic" doesn't mean what you think it means.

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      8. Curtis LayCraft ‏@LayCraft Jun 13 Victoria, British Columbia

        @justkelly_ok Systematic is what I meant. #autocorrect

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      9. Kelly Ellis ‏@justkelly_ok Jun 13

        @LayCraft Autocorrect changed your use of both "systemically" and "systemic"? Weird!

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