Or State/Local law enforcement. To me, it says nothing about allowing Fed or local agencies to "just take" stuff from people with just cause
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If state or local government lawfully seizes (e.g., probable cause search), then federal government can permanently take (i.e., forfeiture).
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talking about the Feds reaching past state/local and just permanently taking property?
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Pursuant to lawful state or local seizure, which can happen without any criminal charges being filed.
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"Just take things from people" with no warrants or cause for tying it to criminal behavior or activity? (Taking property for no reason)
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Yes, but our Constitution demands a much higher standard. Due process calls for a criminal conviction in such cases.
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I agree, thanks for having a legitimate and humane conversation with me about it. So much of political talk is nasty anymore, this wasn't.
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If you can count on anyone in the legislature to be logical and objective, it would be Amash.
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You need to leave office!
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Are you kidding? We need more like him in office.
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Exactly. Seizure is when the police first take your stuff. Forfeiture is when title of ownership transfers to the police.
#CivilForfeitureThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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So get busy, introduce a law against forfeiture and push it. I'll backyou.
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If I am missing something here, please clear it up for me. Seems like it only affects assets that were already lawfully collected?
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"Lawfully collected" as you put it is the local or state "seizure" without criminal charge, which is legal. Fed then take thru "forfeiture".
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That's how I understand this to be anyway, and if you look in the previous discussion w/ Amash, he told you the same thing. Hope this helps
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Sessions made it more difficult to transfer property to the federal government. Why are you so eager to protect drug cartels?
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We NEED to have a way to transfer assets to the federal government in the case of a multi-state gang / cartel case.https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-sessions-issues-policy-and-guidelines-federal-adoptions-assets-seized-state …
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If $10 million is seized from a drug cartel in one state we're just going to give it back to them if the charges get filed in another?
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