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US House candidate, MI-3

I defend #liberty and explain every vote at http://facebook.com/justinamash  • 'Laws must be general, equal, and certain.' —F.A. Hayek

Third District of Michigan
Joined January 2011

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    Justin Amash‏Verified account @justinamash 19 Jul 2017
    US House candidate, MI-3

    Justin Amash Retweeted 99.44% Crosspatch

    No. "Forfeiture" & "seizure" aren't same. Some states banned civil forfeiture, not seizure. Directive lets feds forfeit w/o criminal charge.https://twitter.com/victorb123/status/887867444085137408 …

    Justin Amash added,

    99.44% Crosspatch @VictorB123
    Replying to @JoshJRJS32516 @MendyWax and 2 others
    Her tweet is completely wrong and people are reacting to her tweet and not to the actual order.
    8:37 PM - 19 Jul 2017
    • 62 Retweets
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    15 replies 62 retweets 189 likes
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      2. Josh Smith‏ @JoshJRJS32516 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @justinamash

        Or State/Local law enforcement. To me, it says nothing about allowing Fed or local agencies to "just take" stuff from people with just cause

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      3. Justin Amash‏Verified account @justinamash 19 Jul 2017
        US House candidate, MI-3
        Replying to @JoshJRJS32516

        If state or local government lawfully seizes (e.g., probable cause search), then federal government can permanently take (i.e., forfeiture).

        3 replies 2 retweets 0 likes
      4. Josh Smith‏ @JoshJRJS32516 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @justinamash

        talking about the Feds reaching past state/local and just permanently taking property?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Justin Amash‏Verified account @justinamash 19 Jul 2017
        US House candidate, MI-3
        Replying to @JoshJRJS32516

        Pursuant to lawful state or local seizure, which can happen without any criminal charges being filed.

        2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
      6. Josh Smith‏ @JoshJRJS32516 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @justinamash

        "Just take things from people" with no warrants or cause for tying it to criminal behavior or activity? (Taking property for no reason)

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Justin Amash‏Verified account @justinamash 19 Jul 2017
        US House candidate, MI-3
        Replying to @JoshJRJS32516

        Yes, but our Constitution demands a much higher standard. Due process calls for a criminal conviction in such cases.

        2 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
      8. Josh Smith‏ @JoshJRJS32516 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @justinamash

        I agree, thanks for having a legitimate and humane conversation with me about it. So much of political talk is nasty anymore, this wasn't.

        1 reply 3 retweets 4 likes
      9. Grumpy Bear ⭐️‏ @WhosAGrumpyBear 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @JoshJRJS32516 @justinamash

        If you can count on anyone in the legislature to be logical and objective, it would be Amash.

        0 replies 3 retweets 7 likes
      10. End of conversation
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      2.  ❌Tomas A PROUD PATRIOT 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 ❌‏ @tomasnjill 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @justinamash

        You need to leave office!

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Chris Dixon‏ @cdixon25 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @tomasnjill @justinamash

        Are you kidding? We need more like him in office.

        0 replies 6 retweets 20 likes
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      1. Justin Pearson‏ @JustinPearsonIJ 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @justinamash

        Exactly. Seizure is when the police first take your stuff. Forfeiture is when title of ownership transfers to the police. #CivilForfeiture

        0 replies 2 retweets 1 like
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      2. Mike‏ @sinkspur 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @justinamash

        So get busy, introduce a law against forfeiture and push it. I'll backyou.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Grumpy Bear ⭐️‏ @WhosAGrumpyBear 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @sinkspur @justinamash

        https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/press/dr-rand-pauls-fair-act-restores-respect-for-5th-amendment …

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Josh Smith‏ @JoshJRJS32516 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @justinamash

        If I am missing something here, please clear it up for me. Seems like it only affects assets that were already lawfully collected?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Joe Thoroughman‏ @joe_thoroughman 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @JoshJRJS32516 @justinamash

        "Lawfully collected" as you put it is the local or state "seizure" without criminal charge, which is legal. Fed then take thru "forfeiture".

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Joe Thoroughman‏ @joe_thoroughman 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @joe_thoroughman @JoshJRJS32516 @justinamash

        That's how I understand this to be anyway, and if you look in the previous discussion w/ Amash, he told you the same thing. Hope this helps

        0 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. 99.44% Crosspatch‏ @VictorB123 12 Sep 2017
        Replying to @justinamash

        Sessions made it more difficult to transfer property to the federal government. Why are you so eager to protect drug cartels?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. 99.44% Crosspatch‏ @VictorB123 12 Sep 2017
        Replying to @VictorB123 @justinamash

        We NEED to have a way to transfer assets to the federal government in the case of a multi-state gang / cartel case.https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-sessions-issues-policy-and-guidelines-federal-adoptions-assets-seized-state …

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. 99.44% Crosspatch‏ @VictorB123 12 Sep 2017
        Replying to @VictorB123 @justinamash

        If $10 million is seized from a drug cartel in one state we're just going to give it back to them if the charges get filed in another?

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. End of conversation

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