Constitution doesn't grant free speech (secures it), but phrase specifically connotes opposition to govt abridgment. https://twitter.com/gokitefly/status/708887944975618048 …
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@gokitefly Conflating support for "free speech" with opposition to crimes by some protesters undermines the concept of freedom of speech. -
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@gokitefly When "free speech" means more than 1A concept, govt is transformed from neutral protector into regulator, making "safe spaces." -
@justinamash sounds like Trump wants a safe space from differing opinions - 1 more reply
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@justinamash I think you're right about 1st Amend, but there can be non-gov't violations of freedom of speech. -
@ariarmstrong What would these "non-gov't violations of freedom of speech" be other than crimes like assault, battery, conversion, etc.? -
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@justinamash Yes, that's my point. A private party can violate another's freedom of speech through violence. -
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@ariarmstrong These are crimes regardless of motive. "Free speech"=>free from gov abridgment. Not independently protected in other context. -
@justinamash@ariarmstrong a private entity cannot abridge your freedom of speech. First Amdt clearly says congress shall pass no law -
@justinamash@ariarmstrong protestors shouting down trump r violating rights of those who own & paid for the event. So they can be removed. -
@dougstafford@justinamash@ariarmstrong I'm legally allowed to shout over you so you can't make your point, but I shouldn't. -
@MellinaHuitema@justinamash@ariarmstrong that's right. But it's not a violation of anyone's rights.
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@justinamash@gokitefly I disagree with you here. By itself you're right, but when those things are used to stifle speech it is a violation. -
@jwativ@justinamash@gokitefly Christ dude, read a fucking book. -
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@justinamash@gokitefly great argument. Violations of rights are violations no matter who's committing them. -
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@justinamash@gokitefly anyone using force to prevent speech is violating one's right to free speech, government or otherwise. -
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@justinamash@gokitefly that shouldn't be hard to grasp.
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@justinamash@gokitefly#ApplicableLaw re#Protest where#SecretService is in place.#TrumpRallies RNot PublicEVENTSpic.twitter.com/utHsD9LG6D
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