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SF-based writer & speaker focused on reasoning, judgment, and the future of humanity. Host of the Rationally Speaking podcast (@rspodcast)

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    Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 21 Aug 2018

    Wilbur Wright, on the difficulty of forecasting technological progress -- even for someone at the heart of the field:pic.twitter.com/qwfrvGQV7Q

    9:40 PM - 21 Aug 2018
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      2. Oisín Moran‏ @TheOisinMoran 21 Aug 2018
        Replying to @juliagalef

        There's a Danish proverb: "It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future." but it also seems difficult even if they're not about the future, as displayed here by Haldane.pic.twitter.com/Vf7a5OzJKD

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      3. Bill Blake‏ @BillBlake2018 22 Aug 2018
        Replying to @TheOisinMoran @juliagalef

        Actually, that's Yogi Berra: “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”

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      4. Oisín Moran‏ @TheOisinMoran 22 Aug 2018
        Replying to @BillBlake2018 @juliagalef

        I wasn't initially sure where it came from, and Yogi Berra may well have said it, but it turns out it's a good bit older than that: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/10/20/no-predict/ …

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      5. Bill Blake‏ @BillBlake2018 22 Aug 2018
        Replying to @TheOisinMoran @juliagalef

        Learn something new every day. QI is a great site -- if you don't mind having your beliefs about the origins of quotes shaken up regularly. 😀

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      2. Lawrence Kesteloot‏ @lkesteloot 21 Aug 2018
        Replying to @juliagalef

        Same with Enrico Fermi and net power from nuclear fission. https://intelligence.org/2017/10/13/fire-alarm/ …pic.twitter.com/205YWmzlMV

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      3. Drago Indjic‏ @dindjic 22 Aug 2018
        Replying to @lkesteloot @juliagalef

        and fusion is still ... away

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      1. Daniel Gollahon‏ @danielgollahon 22 Aug 2018
        Replying to @juliagalef

        Oh man, I love the Wright brothers. Have you read The Wright Brothers by David McCullough, by chance? It's fascinating and quite well-researched.

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      1. ken‏ @knacn 21 Aug 2018
        Replying to @juliagalef

        And his brother Orville went on to invent popcorn so you can never know what will happen

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      1. Easton Smith‏ @EastonLSmith 22 Aug 2018
        Replying to @juliagalef

        “ai safety issues are decades away from relevance”

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      1. John Greer‏ @JohnCGreer 22 Aug 2018
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        This page has a whole series of great quotes related to this:http://humanscience.wikia.com/wiki/Worst_Predictions …

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      1. Adithya Ravi‏ @Zuko1107 22 Aug 2018
        Replying to @juliagalef

        The only way to predict the future is to invent it

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      2. Ad Astra!‏ @elonisourhero 22 Aug 2018
        Replying to @juliagalef @Liv_Boeree

        That's why I won't be surprised if I get to get out of 'the simulation' tomorrow.

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      3. Euge‏ @eugediana 22 Aug 2018
        Replying to @elonisourhero @juliagalef @Liv_Boeree

        Is that a “thing? The great escape?

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      4. Ad Astra!‏ @elonisourhero 22 Aug 2018
        Replying to @eugediana @juliagalef @Liv_Boeree

        Yep. The Greatest! This is how I feel whenever I think about it:https://youtu.be/gw7XefyCj6c 

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      2. Spencer Camp‏ @spencercamp 21 Aug 2018
        Replying to @juliagalef

        Technological progress is easy to predict. What will go to market at a price point and desirability to reach wide spread adoption, that’s the hard stuff. 🚀

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      3. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 21 Aug 2018
        Replying to @spencercamp @juliagalef

        Progress in general, sure. Specifics, though? A decade ago, I would have said #nanotech would happen in the next 20 years, and solving byzantine's general problem was a mathematical impossibility. But #blockchain came out a year later, and we're still ~20 years from nanotech.

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      4. DKlondt‏ @dklndt Feb 4
        Replying to @davidmanheim @spencercamp @juliagalef

        Nanotech was never anything other than hype and hype squared. There are hard physical limits on the fantasies of nanotech.

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      5. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim Feb 4
        Replying to @dklndt @spencercamp @juliagalef

        So you'd be willing to bet that, say, none of these five products; https://www.nanowerk.com/nanotechnology-news/newsid=44165.php … or substantially equivalent ones based on nanotech will have total market shares of over $10m by 2025?

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      1. Villiam Flyvholm Olsen‏ @VFOlsen 23 Aug 2018
        Replying to @juliagalef

        So...If Wright is wrong, how can I trust anyone ever again? 🤔

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