Ian Welsh
Since Dems have done nothing to fix the economy for ordinary people, this result is overdue: http://www.ianwelsh.net/two-charts-on-why-the-obama-economy-sucks/ …
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@flipsville Yes, and after 6 years of not feeling better, they're willing to try the GOP. "They'll be EVEN worse" is not a good argument.
Marianne
J-S Poupart
@iwelsh @flipsville Wages have stagnated for decades, that's not a new phenomenon. Hardly Obama's fault.
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@jspoupart@flipsville they stagnated more under him, and he had a window to change it and didn't. His policies made it worse. -
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@jspoupart@flipsville or, to put it less politely, bullshit. -
@iwelsh@flipsville It's not like he didn't have a divided party, and mainly a demented opposition to deal with. I don't excuse him, though. -
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@jspoupart@flipsville Argument does not hold. In things where Obama needed no agreement from Congress, he still did the reactionary thing. -
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@iwelsh@flipsville I understand what you mean. Here's Scott Lemieux on the Thomas Frank piece from 2 weeks ago. http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2014/10/real-hard-headed-political-analysis-pretends-united-states-congress-doesnt-exist … -
@jspoupart@flipsville That's an argument that Obama is a blazing success. He's not. How much did Obamacare reduce the uninsured JS? -
@iwelsh@flipsville The ACA is far from perfect, but it's a start. The number of uninsured was reduced. Lemme find the data. -
@jspoupart@flipsville The ACA is a method to subsidize private insurance companies and was written as such. -
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@iwelsh@flipsville I know. I wanted Single Payer, or at least a Public Option. Reality is that ACA reduced uninsured and has real benefits - Show more
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@jspoupart@iwelsh Agreed. And millions of middle class jobs have disappeared because of technology. The job my mom had for 15 is gone. -
Tech, outsourcing, decline in union representation, stagnant wages, lack of adequate pensions, cuts in social services.
@flipsville@iwelsh
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