Justin Spahr-Summers

@jspahrsummers @landonfuller Includes a forked cocos2D-x… Can Apple randomly fork projects and claim numerical superiority?

@kendalldevdiary @landonfuller Even if you eliminate all the forks, they still have a lot of active, interesting open source on there.

@jspahrsummers @landonfuller I agree that have some good stuff, just not sure it's vastly better than Apple's contributions to open source.

@kendalldevdiary @landonfuller Microsoft accepts contributions from and has discussions with the community. Apple does not.

@jspahrsummers @landonfuller I don't think valuation of contribution should be about quantity over quality.

@kendalldevdiary I never suggested that it was. But it remains true that I can’t contribute to any Apple projects that I care about.

@kendalldevdiary Patch a bug in a Cocoa framework? Fix bugs in the Swift compiler? Not possible.

@jspahrsummers most of that looks like open source example projects, but sure apple can do better. have you ever tried reaching out about it

@Dirk_Gently l o l

@Dirk_Gently In all seriousness, I _have_ suggested many a time to various Apple engineers that stuff should be open source.

@Dirk_Gently It’s clear that there’s a pervasive culture against it. Engineers can’t even work on open source projects in their spare time!

@jspahrsummers that isn’t the impression i have gotten when pushing to get code open sourced. main blocker is nobody shows enough interest.

@Dirk_Gently Then it’s also a culture problem, I guess. Maybe they need top-down encouragement, like Microsoft has had under Satya.

@jspahrsummers Response is a bit longer than 140 char: http://cl.samdmarshall.com/YVp8  tl;dr yes I agree with you.

@jspahrsummers @ara_p and how exactly is that? https://opensource.apple.com 

@mahtiaivo @ara_phttps://twitter.com/jspahrsummers/status/532662574207102977 …

@jspahrsummers @ara_p not exactly an argument, cups = printerserver in gnu+linux, todays chrome, firefox and opera are based on webkit, ...

@mahtiaivo @ara_phttps://twitter.com/jspahrsummers/status/532651576532283392 …

@jspahrsummers @ara_p i can't see any difference to microsoft here, where is the windows kernel source code? internet explorer? ...

@mahtiaivo Wow, what a strawman you’ve constructed. .NET is roughly equivalent to the Cocoa frameworks in scope. The former is open source.

@mahtiaivo No part of what could properly be called “Cocoa” is currently open source. None of the Swift toolchain is open source.