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    Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

    ATTENTION NYT EDITORS AND NEWSROOM STAFF: The op-Ed section has published a column with a contemptuous tone and serious factual issues. You know what to do.https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/opinion/coronavirus-reopening-marshmallow-test.html …

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      2. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        What factual issues? Glad you asked. First, this description of what other countries have done is way too oversimplified. As @lymanstoneky has tirelessly pointed out, many of the Asian countries w/the best success record never resorted to lockdowns close to as draconian as us.pic.twitter.com/9rF61aGZOG

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      3. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        Their testing and tracing regimes were in large part substitutes for lockdowns, not complements.

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      4. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        Plus, most of those countries had the success they did because they moved far earlier than (the hardest hit areas of, mostly NY) the US did and thus had way less community spread. By the time we (again, mostly NY) moved it was too late to replicate the best records.

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      5. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        (Note that this would be a perfectly legitimate criticism to levy against the US and Trump, but it’s not the column Krugman wrote.)

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      6. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        Next: Krugman avoids the temptation - good for him, really - to wax definitive about the virus spreading widely elsewhere. But even if he is right about it spreading more in these states, he doesn’t specify that those areas are starting from a base *massively* lower than NY.pic.twitter.com/syNjEqgOki

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      7. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        Why does that matter? Because Krugman uses US aggregate experience to judge the conduct of places whose base is far below the NY-inflated average, thus holding them to a standard above what they have actually experienced.

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      8. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        Jeremy Senderowicz Retweeted PoliMath

        Krugman doesn’t discuss the level at which those states are plateauing, perhaps because that is a pretty low level.https://twitter.com/politicalmath/status/1270795342519218177?s=21 …

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        PoliMath @politicalmath
        You're currently seeing people say "Texas hospitalization are are hitting new highs the past 3 days!" Yes, but also let's keep some perspective. It's not increasing anything like the accelerations we've seen in other places. pic.twitter.com/K42a3x8oLK
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      9. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        And then Krugman compares the US as a whole to harder hit places like Spain and Italy. Well, the part of the US which most resembled those two countries - NY - had similar decreases! And regions of the country that had lower incidence, by orders of magnitude, didn’t!

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      10. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        When you recognize the wildly disparate impact COVID has had in different areas of the US, this all seems pretty intuitive. But Krugman’s column doesn’t.

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      11. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        Finally, Krugman doesn’t recognize that most areas of the world and the US are all reopening more or less at similar paces, regardless of effect or ruling political party. Krugman should consider the possibility that there simply are limits on how long lockdowns can be imposed.

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      12. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        And finally, this column contains fewer nasty attacks on Republicans than the average Krugman column but it still has enough to earn the “contemptuous tone” epithet. (In fact, here the concluding contempt is directed at the US as a whole, not just the GOP. For Krugman, progress.)

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      13. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        Now, to bring it back to the original troll. I don’t think any of these tonal or factual concerns add up to a case that the column shouldn’t have been published. I’m glad it was.

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      14. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        But NYT, this is the standard you have set for yourselves, publicly, as of this week. Are you going to live up to it consistently?

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      15. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        Because here is a perspective that, from the reporting, does not seem to be widely expressed (even if privately felt) in the newsroom. I do not believe you are interested in imposing this standard consistently or have any intention of doing so.

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      16. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        And even if you do, I do not believe you are capable of recognizing those same flaws in work from a perspective that is more congenial to the political preferences of your staff, while being hypersensitive to them in pieces coming from alternative perspectives.

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      17. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        And from the @benyt piece, it seems clear that a large number of your staff does not believe that seriously engaging with alternative perspectives contributes to discovery of the truth, because Trump conservative white male fascism.

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      18. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        If this trend continues, it will lead the NYT as an institution to have serious blind spots that will lead its journalism astray in innumerable ways.

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      19. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        Which would be a perverse outcome for an effort designed to correct for the blind spots of the past (which the reporters quoted by @benyt are correct about; they exist and distort). Is it too much to hope for better than exchanging one set of blind spots for another?

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      20. Jeremy Senderowicz‏ @jsende 10 Jun 2020

        (Don’t answer that.) -Fin-

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