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    Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

    1/17 My full analysis of what we’re seeing from midterm data. I’m going to speak in some generalities – this comes from looking at a lot of data – public and non-public, large sample size and standard sample size:

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      2. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        2/17 Polling analysis and aggregators general weakness right now is that it’s doing a pretty terrible job of dealing with age because it has been modeling (not all, but many) as a standard demographic variable when it isn’t.

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      3. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        3/17 Other demographic variables are stable: there are predictable changes in the overall electorate but individuals don’t morph race/gender/education level (this can change but it’s pretty static)

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      4. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        4/17 For Bayesian-based analysis, it has historically been okay to treat age that way because age gaps, while present, have been relatively small, and there have been predictable patterns of evolution of individuals over time.

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      5. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        5/17 This started to change in 2004 and really in 2008. As I’ve said a number of times, the age gap in the 2000 election was non-existent: While Gore won young voters it was only by a few points. Bush won old voters by a similar margin.

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      6. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        6/17 Shit gets real (and really complicated) when you start seeing birth year cohort as an identity, which the evidence at this point overwhelmingly points towards it being (in terms of political views and engagement).

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      7. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        7/17 The best example of this is that older Millennials (myself included) are not changing politically. When people talked about young voters in 2004 they were talking about voters born after about 1978. That cohort has an identity.

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      8. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        8/17 This ladders up to me being somewhat skeptical of what I’ve seen in a lot of public polls. Pollsters are too aggressively muxing with age adjustments. This isn’t just with 18-29 year old voters, it’s with 30-40 year old voters too.

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      9. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

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        9/17 In 2016, my general feeling was IF structural error existed, it was going to be with White Working Class voters(https://twitter.com/jschavez/status/793954586126061568?s=21 …). My general sense now is that if there is a source of error it’s with voters under 40.

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        1/x At this point, reading and interpreting polls is pointless without 2 things: XTabs and data on weighted and unweighted n-sizes by demo.
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      10. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        10/17 Upshot/Sienna have done a great public service with their polling, but it’s gotten to the point that they have an outsized role to play. They are leading the herd and numbers are herding towards them.

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      11. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        11/17 That’s not their fault at all, but there’s real pressure on pollsters for numbers to be “right.” And because of their prominence they are viewed as the default case by pollsters in this election. Stray from them at your own peril.

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      12. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        12/17 I understand the argument for making adjustments for past levels of truthfulness, but I’ve got a whole slew of reasons why I think they have treated this specific adjustment incorrectly, and so far turnout seems to be tilting in my direction on this specific point.

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      13. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        13/17 I wish I could get into more specifics on that, but it takes too much data, some of which is not really releasable. I do not believe that if 65+ will increase their share of the electorate this time around. I don’t find the data I have looked at on that point convincing.

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      14. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        14/17 Add this up, and the conclusion from the data is that if a structural error exists, it’s coming from incorrect treatment of birth year cohorts in age-based truthfulness adjustments and unintended herding that flows from that.

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      15. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        15/17 I don’t know for a fact that will happen, but it seems to be where the largest potential source of systematic error is coming from, along with a high level of unpredictability of 18-19 YOs this year vs past years. They look VERY different in the data compared to the past.

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      16. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        16/17 Hispanic attitudes towards answering the phone have also potentially changed in the past 2 years, introducing some area for potential error as well.

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      17. Jonathan Chavez‏ @jschavez 5 Nov 2018

        17/17 In conclusion, I was somewhat confident about 2016’s structural error misunderstanding White working class voters. I’m a bit more confident this time around that the bulk of the structural error comes in the form of misrepresentations of under 40 voters in the electorate.

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